PMC brass

[ohioshooter]

has anyone had a hard time reloading PMC brass. I measured the primer pockets and they are .169-.170 so the CCI 0017 small rifle magnum primers don't fit. (anything that is .172-.173 fits perfectly)

Has anyone tried the CCI 0014 small pistol primers in them or the Winchester No 1 1/2-108 small pistol primers without having to open the primer pocket space?

 

[Mags]

I normally ream out the primer pockets in my 223 brass, have to remove that pesky "military crimp".

 

[ohioshooter]

what's the easiest way to ream them out....do you just drill them out?

 

[RKRNC]

have to remove that pesky "military crimp".

I was going to say the same thing. Most of my 5.56mm brass is PMC. I remove the crimp with a knife I modified, and the primers seat very nicely.

 

[Mags]

I put the brass in a drill and used the lee deburrer but you can buy an actual military crimp removal tool. But I couldn't find one locally so I just made do with what I had on hand.

 

[ohioshooter]

I was looking on another forum and it says that Federal says to never use small pistol primers in .223 so I won't. I tried to use a screwdriver to see if I could remove the crimp and that didn't work. Gotta find a different way cause I have over 200 brass to that I really don't want to have to work hard at to make them work.

 

[Mags]

Do you have a tapered deburring tool and a drill? Or just the tapered deburring tool.You should cause you had better be trimming your brass. First few will take some trial and error. Put the deburring tool in the primer pocket and spin it back and forth with firm pressure about 10-20 times see if a primer will seat if not increase pressure and how much you spin it. It goes alot faster with a drill set on the slowest setting and count to 5 they normally seat well, after 5 seconds of drilling into the deburring tool.

 

[fatelk]

I use the RCBS primer pocket swager, works great. I just picked up a second one today. I didn't need it, but $15 was a good price.

The deburring tool works fine once you get the hang of it, but the swager is faster and makes a more uniform primer pocket.

 

[243winxb]

A deburring tool works for a few cases. RCBS makes a reamer/case prep tool. But both can remover more metal then needed. It can be over done as in the photo. Swagging might be the better choice.Click photos for larger view.

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[ohioshooter]

Thanks guys...I see that Dillon has a swage tool that I heard was a great tool. For less than $100 it will take a lot of time out of the process.

 

[stingrr]

The Dillon tool is great.

I had a few thousand to do, and thought it was well worth the investment.

 

[243winxb]

I was looking on another forum and it says that Federal says to never use small pistol primers in .223 so I won't.

Also, Do Not Use Remington number 6 1/2 small rifle primers in the 223. Do use Remingtons 7 1/2 primers.

 

[Roccobro]

I was looking on another forum and it says that Federal says to never use small pistol primers in .223 so I won't.

Why would you use pistol primers in your .223 anyways?

I've heard of some using the smaller .22 hornet with SP primers to good effect, but .223 really needs a good blast to work right. Hence the 7 1/2 and Magnum recommendations.

Justin

 

[ohioshooter]

just have a bunch of small pistol and wondered if anyone used them.

 

[EugeneInNC]

Stingrr, How long did it take you to do a couple thousand with the Dillon tool? I will soon need to do two thousand mixed headstamp myself and I am not looking forward to processing the primer pockets.

Thanks in advance

 

[shaggy430]

I use PMC 7mm Rem Mag brass all of the time with no issues. If you are speaking strictly of .223 then I have not used it.

 

[Ky Larry]

I use a pocket knife on my PMC brass. It was a time comsuming hassle. I have several thousand .223 brass so I don't pick up PMC brass at the range anymore.I just leave it for someone who wants it. There's nothing wrong with it, I just don't have the time.

 

[ar10]

what's the easiest way to ream them out....do you just drill them out?

I use a 60dg countersink mounted in my drill press at the slowest speed. I got a few at HF for .49 each and they work fine for me.

 

[stingrr]

Eugene, I dunno how long, it is quick and easy though. I would suspect a few hundred an hour if you can handle the repetition.

I spread it out over a few days, working a half hour to an hour or so a night

 

[FROGO207]

I use an RCBS chamfer/deburring tool with the center spindle of the chamfer side in a chuck of a 9.6 volt Makita drill. I hold the case in my hand put reamer side in primer pocket, push lightly and count to one thousand three then tap head of round on a block of wood to remove bits of brass. If the amount removed needs to be adjusted vary pressure. After about ten times you will get it and be really consistent. I also don't try to do more than a couple hundred a night.

 

[smith52]

The question of using small pistol primers in place of small rifle primers was mention. I would like to recommend the August 2009 issue of Shooting Times, there is an excellent article on primers there. It answers quite a few primer questions..