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So, what is the best revolver for front pocket carry? Weight is not an issue. I used to carry my MK9 in my front pocket but it became unreliable when it was dirty with pocket lint. (Works flawless when it is clean and lubed since I got some new springs).

Another factor for me is that it is not bigger than the Kahr MK9.

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Did you carry the Kahr in a holster? I use a DeSantis Nemesis and that seems to keep the gun clean. I do clean my carry guns monthly.

I personally like S&W J-Frames chambered in 38 Special +P with boot stocks (or any minimal stock that does not extend past the bottom of the frame). The S&W 442 or 642 seem to be the most popular models.
 
I carried it in a desantis superfly. like my first post says, its flawless when it is clean and lubed, but I need it to work if it gets dirty and dry. If I carried it IWB I wouldn't be worried at all. I am really thinking of selling it and getting a revolver for pocket carry
 
Smith J-Frame .38+p with CTC laser grips. Finest pocket guns on the market.
 
The MK9 is a great little gun and very accurate for it's size. However, it's damned heavy...too heavy for a pocket pistol, IMHO.
Which is why I sold mine (replaced with an LCP, BTW).
The MK9 was a safe queen for many years while I carried a Taurus 85 Multi-Alloy. Although I still have that little 85, I replaced it (for pocket carry) by another Taurus. This one is an 851 Titanium. The difference is the 85 has an exposed hammer and the 851 has a shrouded hammer.

So, to the OP: Go for a shrouded hammer or DOA .38 snubby. I like Taurus, but buy the brand you like best.

As far as the LCP...this is a BUG and goes with me rather I'm pocket carrying a snubby or packing a Glock 19 on my hip.
 
All steel j-frame M60 lady smith...small enough for my pocket, heavy enough to shoot .357 magnums easily. Dennis

...also a good conversation piece with your buddies if your secure enough in your masculinity to hand it!
 
The weight doesn't bother me so I just need something small enough. I like stainless, so the 642 looks good.

I actually wanted to look at a lady smith. I am secure enough to carry one.
 
You should probably also consider the 640, geronimo509--i.e., the .357 SS j-frame. That one is good for .357 shooting; it's heavy enough.

Jim H.
 
I went through my j-frame phase quite some time ago, and recovered fully. There are no j-frames in my safe these days. The Kahr PM9 helped to expedite this process. :)

While I don't know all tha much about the Mk9 (except that it weighs about what my EMP or Kimber Ultra Carry weighs) I carried a Kahr PM9 for nearly four years in a DeSantis Nemesis in the pocket, and fired it at the range several times per month without any problems.

It was not at all persnickety about pocket lint or what-have-you. It also held up to +p and +P+ ammo. I still have it and will never let go of it, although these days I carry something larger, like it's bigger brother (P45).
 
I carry this one in a pocket all the time. I shoot .38 plus P(125 gr hp). I like it and I shoot it a lot, is accurate at 10 yds COM easily.

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I think it was just a little to dirty and a little too dry. I've gona a month without shooting it and it was fine but I just ignored it a little, but now my faith is gone. I am going to go back to the range with some new springs and it being really clean, but I would still like something that is almost guaranteed to work. From what I've been told, from some experienced people, is that a revolver will work.

Nice pic Kragshooter
 
I carry this one with a speed strip so I have 10 and if yu practice it is amazing how fast you can reload using the strip. It has been really dirty and still worked perfect. I carry it when I'm fishin the rivers so it has had blood on it, worm goo, salmon egg slime etc. I have washed it off in the river and spent the night in a leanto, still no problem. It is an amazing little package. I didn't like the looks at first but it has served so well I now think it is beautiful. Good luck in your search, main thing is practive, a bunch!
 
I actually wanted to look at a lady smith.

As far as I know, the only difference in the 642 LS model are the wood stocks. Typically, gun shops charge a $150 premium for this model. Though I like wood stocks, I'd rather buy a standard 442 or 642 and buy some Eagle Secret Service stocks for $70 plus shipping.

http://www.eaglegrips.com/guns/Rosewood-Secret-Service-Grips-Smooth-SS3.html

Or some of these J Frame boot grips from Kellyarms for around $50:

http://www.kelleyarms.com/SWDA.htm#
 
If weight is not an issue, I suggest something like the S&W 640 or 649, in .38 Special with a two- (actually 1 7/8") barrel. (Concealed or shrouded hammers, respectively, are better for pocket carry.) This is about as small a revolver as you can get. Height and length is about the same as the MK9 but the cylinder is thicker. The revolvers will slide out of a pocket more easily than the squared-off Kahr. The sights will be poor and the trigger pull heavy by comparison to the Kahr.
 
I haven't had any function issues in 13 years with my little Kel Tec P11. It is my constant pocket companion when that pocket isn't filled with my Taurus M85SSUL which is a fantastic little revolver, far better trigger than on most Smith and Wesson J frames and just as accurate and reliable and strong.

A little better, I guess, would be the Bodygaurd style concealed hammer guns. One can retain single action capability this way which I do appreciate, yet it draws as slick as any 642. My choice would be the Taurus 851SSUL. I really do prefer Taurus to NEW Smith and Wesson in most every way and this is a slick little gun. But, then, I don't drink the Smith koolaid. Taurus is really the only alternative to most models of Smith and Wesson. There are other revolvers I like, but no maker builds a hammerless ultralight, UNTIL NOW.

If I were to go pocket revolver hunting right now (I don't need to, have the 85) I would be strongly swayed to the new Ruger LCR. 13 ounces, pocket small, and I absolutely LOVE some aspects of its design. The barrel assembly is not screwed on. Smith and Taurus screw their barrels to the frame and there are many instances of overtorquing causing windage problems out of the box. The trigger on the LCR is reported to be awesome, though I have yet to try one. I'm almost afraid to try one for fear I'll have to have one. LOL Also, the gun is blued, yet stainless, best of both worlds. The one thing I don't like about the LCR is no SA capability, but it's a pure self defense gun. I just like having single action for outdoor uses and plinking. The LCR is a pure, serious self defense pocket revolver and may well just might be the best one on the market. Awesome little gun and only 13 ounces. IMHO, Ruger hit a grand slam with this one. Previous to the LCR, the SP101 is a great little revolver, but in no way a pocket revolver.

http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=301&category=Revolver&toggle=&breadcrumbseries=

http://www.ruger.com/products/lcr/index.html?r=y

You'll get plenty of Ruger/Taurus bashing and suggestions to buy a Smith. I'm giving the alternative and I really think these two revolvers are lightyears better than a J frame. JMHO, though.
 
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Pictured with IWB rig I gave away. Bought a Don Hume pocket rig - the holster is too big for my carpenters jeans, so the lightwieght little thing just rides in the pocket by itself, no issues, clean lint off every day. Good gun, great BUG.
 
Either a bersa 380 or a taurus 605.

Both fit nice in rfp of wrangler jeans.

A lint hint; Besides cleaning your pockets every morning. I use a small paint brush or an old shaving cream brush to take the smootz ( highly technical term for dust) off the weapon.
 
An S&W concealed-hammer J-frame revolver, know collectively as the Centennial models, and the Model 642 in particular, is the best pocket handgun in the world, in my opinion. I have a S&W J from a special Performance Center run, actually designated the M460, no kidding, that was based on a 642. The 642 has a stainless steel frame and an aluminum alloy frame, the perfect match, in my opinion, when all factors/variables are considered.

The 442 is a comparable model, with, I believe, a carbon steel cylinder and barrel. I have a 342 Airlite on layaway, but I owned one before, and it was torture to shoot with serious ammo. I consider the Airlite models, which have titanium cylinders and aluminum alloy frames, to be niche guns, not all-around pocket guns. I decided that niche does exist for me, after all, so I am replacing the 342 I sold.

I also have an all-steel Model 40, the ancestor of the whole Centennial line. Of course, it weighs more than the others, but in the pockets of sturdy pants, that is not a problem. In actuality, I am more likely to use the substantially heavier Ruger SP101 as a pocket gun, but then, over time, I have accumulated some sturdy pants, with deep pockets. Most folks find the SP101 far too heavy and bulky for pocket carry.

As I almost always mention when discussing pocket guns, keep in mind that while pocket carry excels in some circumstances, if you find yourself in a fight at contact distance, before you can get your hand in your pocket, it can be VERY difficult to get the hand into that pocket, and if bent at the waist or hips, VERY difficult to get that hand, with the gun in it, back out of that pocket. Bad guys don't normally broadcast their intentions from a distance, and they will not be likely to willingly let you reach into your pocket. I use pocket carry as a means to tote one of multiple weapons. At the very least, train to use empty-hand methods to create the distance you will need to access your pocket gun.
 
I actually wanted to look at a lady smith. I am secure enough to carry one.

I would have no problem carrying a lady smith. A silversmith works on metal, gunsmith works metal so therefore a ladysmith...
 
The 342ti is the best little j frame out there. I owned one for years and messed around and sold it to a Gwinnett County Cop on this board. I am still kicking myself for that. It was a pre lock gun. Box, presentation case, the lock, everything is came with. I can't believe I was foolish enough to sell that gun. I wish I could buy it back from him. I would pay him a premium to get that gun back.
 
My preferance is for a Colt Cobra in a Mika pocket holster if I'm going to pocket carry.

Only a whisker bigger than a J frame with a full six rounds, and a nicer trigger IMO.

With the short grips on it, the only real size difference is that it's .10 inches wider across the cylinder than a J frame.

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