"Pocket" clip on a Glock-style action

[Sovblocgunfan]

I do carry a no-safety P365 quite often. But always in a holster that covers the trigger.

I’m game for just about any method of carry, including AIWB and SOB, but can’t ever see myself in a Mexican carry arrangement. Gotta have a decent holster that covers the trigger, no matter what the firearm is or what the carry position is.

 

[scaatylobo]

I would not even consider trigger guard holsters. Although rare.. a jolt to the muzzle end can dislodge the pistol from the holster.

But that's just me. (And only referring to carrying striker fired guns with no external safeties. )

Well,since the muzzle end is in my pants = a "jolt" to that will very likely result in a visit to the hospital.

And having worn a Glock in that manner for many hours and in VERY hot sticky weather,it works and never a glitch .
Or I would not do so,I try very hard to not get shot,even by myself.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

Clips belong on knives, not guns.

 

[WrongHanded]

Clips belong on knives, not guns.

In most cases, I agree. That G42 is an exception for me, because it's what works best.

 

[WYO]

I know a guy who used the pocket clip on his mini-Glock. He usually carried with an empty chamber. One time he carried with a round in the chamber, and he sustained a superficial wound and received a criminal citation after his Glock discharged while he was wearing it.

 

[FFGColorado]

Using a clip on a striker fired pistol makes no sense to me. If you carry it with an empty chamber you need to rack the slide. If you carry it with a round chambered you need to remove the slip on trigger guard. Both of these methods require extra manipulation of the firearm. You don't need extra things to do if your in a stressful situation.

If you're deploying your pistol you need it now. Main battery or backup.

The agency I worked for adopted Glocks back in the 90s. They forbade the use of pocket clips for the reasons stated. This was preceded by reports of negligent discharges caused by use of a pocket clip.

Nope, tied to your belt..just pull the gun out and the lanyard pulls the trigger cover off.

Kydex Ravens or Crossbreed type holsters only for me. Or any of the various copies.

I used to use Raven Vanguard when I didn't use the clip-draw'..but the rivets on my jeans scratched up the slide..so I went to a small but cover the slide Desanti..

 

[GRIZ22]

Nope, tied to your belt..just pull the gun out and the lanyard pulls the trigger cover off.

If you're confident with that go for it. I prefer an IWB holster that is not having to rely on a single clip and a trigger guard that requires me to lift the gun higher to clear it.

 

[GRIZ22]

The Israelis carry with an empty chamber, but practice is always in that mode, and they can be pretty quick getting a pistol into action.

I bought a carry clip when I bought an LCP years ago, decided it wasn't for me as I like a loaded chamber and it also didn't feel secure to me.

This is, at best, outdated information. It may never have been universally true. Israeli police, and IDF people who carry a pistol as a primary defensive weapon today carry like everyone else, chambered in a good holster.

As shoobe01 pointed out Israelis dont carry with an empty chamber for some time.

You have to understand the origins of "Israeli Carry". When Israel got its independence their arsenal was to say the least varied. You could be issued a P38, High Power, Radom, Star, or just about any handgun that was available in the world. They adopted "Israeli Carry". Maybe 40 or so years ago gun writers heard about it and some touted the benefits of Israeli Carry. There was a faction that subscribed to the idea that if the Israelis do it, it must be good.
IMO it's not. That's supported by the majority of trainers.

 

[barnetmill]

If you're confident with that go for it. I prefer an IWB holster that is not having to rely on a single clip and a trigger guard that requires me to lift the gun higher to clear it.

Have you tried it. On my Zack from Dale Fricke the movement is not very much and does not have to be up; it can be to either side or down. Yes it could an issue if you fire from the belt or pressed against your body that is not a recommended way to shoot, but might be necessary. The entire goal is to print to the minimum possible. Your particular physique, plays a role also. I do not use a clip anymore and wear proper loose clothing and a holster. The clip is not secure enough in my opinion and the clips as I mentioned do break/snap without warning.
There are many now that are putting safety devices on glocks, even for holster wear. I have a tau device on mine.

 

[FFGColorado]

If you're confident with that go for it. I prefer an IWB holster that is not having to rely on a single clip and a trigger guard that requires me to lift the gun higher to clear it.

I prefer my Desanti holster too but for certain times and clothing, I need deeper or different concealment, like when riding my bicycle.

 

[GRIZ22]

Have you tried it. On my Zack from Dale Fricke the movement is not very much and does not have to be up; it can be to either side or down. Yes it could an issue if you fire from the belt or pressed against your body that is not a recommended way to shoot, but might be necessary. The entire goal is to print to the minimum possible. Your particular physique, plays a role also. I do not use a clip anymore and wear proper loose clothing and a holster. The clip is not secure enough in my opinion and the clips as I mentioned do break/snap without warning.
There are many now that are putting safety devices on glocks, even for holster wear. I have a tau device on mine.

I've tried it and don't like it. Not only as a carry option but AFAIC the clip interferes with your grip on the slide if your gun gets jammed up.

 

[GRIZ22]

I prefer my Desanti holster too but for certain times and clothing, I need deeper or different concealment, like when riding my bicycle.

Have you tried a soft IWB holster? What advantage does a clip have over that?

 

[WrongHanded]

Have you tried a soft IWB holster? What advantage does a clip have over that?

The gun sits level with the belt line. And so is reasonably well hidden even if a shirt were to ride up. Also, no grip to bulge out when bent over for extended periods.

 

[barnetmill]

Have you tried a soft IWB holster? What advantage does a clip have over that?

For me it is for minimal printing. A holster adds more bulk than a clip. A properly designed kydex holster if the more secure option. Soft holsters when pressed against something real hard have resulted in release of the magazine for me. Around the house I often use a bandoleer type holster that is soft. I picked up some some logs in my arms last winter against my chest the mag came out. Similar has happened many times over the years. When seating a magazine, I always pull on it to make sure it is really seated and latched. When doing heavy work I try to remember to make sure to check that the mag is still in the gun.

 

[IdaD]

I often carry my Shield with a Vanguard 2 by RCS. It adds no more bulk than a clipdraw but it secures the trigger.

 

[Master Blaster]

I would never even consider carrying any gun concealed without a holster that covers the trigger.
It is unsafe, an accident waiting to happen. Especially with a Glock.

 

[FFGColorado]

I would never even consider carrying any gun concealed without a holster that covers the trigger.
It is unsafe, an accident waiting to happen. Especially with a Glock.

I wouldn't either but that's true of ANY gun when the trigger is squeezed. Not just Glock. 'Glock leg'..funny..-lots of dummies own guns
This was a 1911

 

[WrongHanded]

This thread was not about how I should carry. It was about whether anyone considered a loaded Glock with just a pocket clip safe enough to carry (which I stated I do not).

However, when enough people make enough comments about using a real holster, or always having one in the chamber, I take it into consideration.



This Vedder Light Tuck has been working out nicely. And after adding the "claw", I believe it's an improvement to AIWB carry. I'm impressed.

 

[Fiv3r]

I carry my Shield .45 with a Clip Draw. It has a very firm safety, and it works (for me) as a viable carry option.

I would never carry a pistol with no manual safety chambered with a Clip Draw. I have one on my 1911 that I use as a bump in the night way if securing the gun. It interferes with none of my holsters, and just offers a quick way to "safe" the gun in my shorts should I need to in a break in situation.

I'm thinking about getting a 21 or 30 as my next handgun. Since the 26 is the only handgun I have foolishly SHOT through my own wall, no Glock is going to get a carry pass. Glocks belong in a holster, IMHO.

 

[FFGColorado]

I know a guy who used the pocket clip on his mini-Glock. He usually carried with an empty chamber. One time he carried with a round in the chamber, and he sustained a superficial wound and received a criminal citation after his Glock discharged while he was wearing it.

Fake news..how was the trigger pulled 'while he was wearing it'..??
I have been carrying Glocks for a long time..and they just don't 'go off' while you are wearing them.

 

[rbernie]

how was the trigger pulled 'while he was wearing it'..??

Pocket clip == exposed trigger == clothing got bunched into the trigger guard. That's why, all through this thread, people have been saying that clip carry requires a separate trigger guard / shield if the gun is striker fired.

 

[barnetmill]

This thread was not about how I should carry. It was about whether anyone considered a loaded Glock with just a pocket clip safe enough to carry (which I stated I do not).

However, when enough people make enough comments about using a real holster, or always having one in the chamber, I take it into consideration.

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This Vedder Light Tuck has been working out nicely. And after adding the "claw", I believe it's an improvement to AIWB carry. I'm impressed.

I am not familiar with the claw. What is its function.

 

[WrongHanded]

I am not familiar with the claw. What is its function.

It appears to do two things. One is to push the butt of the gun back towards the body, so that it does not stick out, and potentially print. The other is to mitigate rotation of the holster, around the single clip. And having tried the holster for a week or so without the "claw", and now with it, I can confirm that for my body it does both these things quite well.

 

[JTQ]

I am not familiar with the claw. What is its function.

Similar function as the steel torque plate on the Andrews MacDaniel II. The description as follows

http://www.andrewsleather.com/macdaniel2.htm

Torque Plate
A spring steel reinforcement plate is contained within the rear flange. This prevents 'foldover' of the flange. More importantly, it creates a stiffened paddle over which the belt lays when the holster is worn. This pulls the butt of the weapon up firmly against the side.

 

[JR24]

Pistols belong in holsters when not in hand.
Holsters belong on belts and both should be leather IMO.

Kydex and Kydex/nylon belts for me. I get too danged hot in the summer and leather just never dries out from my sweat.

Kydex holsters were a godsend when I finally got some good ones.

This thread was not about how I should carry. It was about whether anyone considered a loaded Glock with just a pocket clip safe enough to carry (which I stated I do not).

However, when enough people make enough comments about using a real holster, or always having one in the chamber, I take it into consideration.

View attachment 909813

This Vedder Light Tuck has been working out nicely. And after adding the "claw", I believe it's an improvement to AIWB carry. I'm impressed.

I was very surprised how much better concealment with the "claw" and now I can't go back to claw-less holsters. Keeps the grip in tighter to my body and conceals so much better.