Police kill man wielding knife outside home

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'I done killed everyone in my house,' man claims

DAYTON -- Minutes before he died, Kenneth Lee Fields called 911 with a chilling message:

"Yeah, I done killed everyone in my house. I'll be out behind my house at 178 West Fairview."

He said no more. The dispatcher asked, "Tell me exactly what happened." Fields hung up at 2:23 a.m. Thursday.

When police arrived at the house, Fields was waiting with a butcher knife, police said. He asked them if they wanted to go home that night, then came toward them with the knife, Lt. John Huber said.

The two officers fired, killing Fields.

When police went inside, they found his family unharmed.

"He didn't kill anybody," Huber said.

Police summoned paramedics at 2:31 a.m.

Fields, who had attempted suicide at least once, was pronounced dead at Miami Valley Hospital's emergency room at 3:20 a.m.

Huber declined to identify the officers, who have been placed on paid administrative leave, which is customary for police shootings. Homicide and internal affairs detectives are investigating, but Huber said preliminary indicators show the officers acted in self-defense.

"We certainly feel for the family of the man who was shot," Huber said.

Officers told Fields to drop the knife, but he did not. One officer started firing at him as Fields walked toward him. When Fields continued toward the first officer, the second officer fired, Huber said.

Huber said he did not know how many times Fields was hit or where. Officers are trained to fire their guns until the threat to their lives or someone else's is over, Huber said.

Neighbor Leslie Kinney said her 17-year-old daughter woke her about 2:30 a.m. after she heard six to eight gunshots fired outside.

Two hours later, Fields' mother, Frances, came to Kinney's house across the street to use the telephone after police would not let her return to her own home, which remained cordoned off with yellow police tape Thursday morning.

She just kept saying 'They didn't have to shoot him. They didn't have to shoot him,' " Kinney said.

Kinney said Fields previously told her that her son, Kenny, had "mental problems." She also was aware of a past failed suicide attempt.

Fields attempted suicide in September 1999, thwarted when his brother, Herschel, who also lives at 178 W. Fairview, found him hanging in the garage. Herschel told police he cut his brother down and put him on the floor, then called for help, according to a police report.

At the hospital, an officer asked Fields why he tried to kill himself, Fields, who had a rope burn on his neck, would only say he "wanted to take a nap," the report said. Fields may have been under the influence of alcohol, the officer reported.

Kinney said Fields told her early Thursday that she had been cleaning the bathroom when her son walked in, kissed her and told her everything would be all right. He said he was going to smoke a cigarette on the porch.

She told Kinney that she ran outside after she heard the dog start barking and then shots fired.

"I just feel so sorry for her," Kinney said, noting that Frances Fields recently had been hospitalized. She told Kinney that her son visited her at the hospital daily and that he had been looking for a job.

A distraught woman who appeared outside the 178 W. Fairview home Thursday morning said she was looking for her neighbor, Frances Fields, because she heard what happened and was concerned about her.

The woman said she'd known Kenny Fields since he was a little boy.

"He had mental problems," she said. "If (his mother) could have gotten him help, it wouldn't have ended like this."

Fields' background also included some petty crime. In December 2002, police arrested Fields in connection with a break-in at Steinbrunner's Shell station, 3613 N. Main St.

An employee reported that a man kicked in a glass window of a garage door, then stepped through. When the employee yelled at him, the man then left, according to a police report.

After police broadcast the employee's description, two other officers arrested Fields as he tried to break into Doc's Tavern, 2236 N. Main St. Fields matched the description, the report said.

Fields pleaded guilty to criminal trespass. A Dayton municipal judge placed him on probation and ordered him to get drug/alcohol counseling and to stay away from the Shell station, according to court records.

Police again arrested Fields about 4:30 a.m. Oct. 27 after the manager of the Ashwood Lounge, 3500 N. Main St., reported that a man had smashed a window and was taking cigarettes, according to a police report.

An officer found Fields a few blocks away, bleeding from cuts on his left hand and carrying a duffel bag full of cigarettes, lighters and four new bottles of liquor.

When the officer asked him what happened, Fields replied "We better leave that alone."

The officer then asked Fields if he was employed.

"I guess I'm a thief," Fields replied.

Fields pleaded guilty Nov. 12 to attempted breaking and entering, a first-degree misdemeanor, and was placed on two years probation, according to Montgomery County Common Pleas Court records.

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Now there's a lose-lose situation.
 
Hard to come up with an act more cowardly than suicide. This qualifies. The guy couldn't even summon up the courage to do it himself, he had to have someone else do it for him.

- Gabe
 
Suicide in itself is any man's prerogative. But have the guts to do it yourself. Don't involve the cops, and risk the lives of your family from overpenetrated rounds.
 
I feel sorry for the cops put in the position to do their duty. What will likely weigh heavy on them will be all the news coverage of the deceased's family saying the cops didn't have to shoot him. If the story is accurate, it sounds like they did as they should have done and as such, the apparently did have to shoot the guy.
 
The woman was distraught, Bear. Her words are to be discounted. My issue is why the newspapers even publish such cries of anguish. You shouldn't hold a relative responsible for words spoken in the wake of such a shocking incident. (Person she thought of as a family member is shot and killed, just outside her own back yard.)

Of course the cops had no choice. Of course they are the victims.

But so too, are the members of his family, and extended family. :(
 
One of these days, the reporter who goes rushing up the the survivor of one of these terrible shootings and asks "how does it feel?" is going to find their teeth on the sidewalk like a pack of spit out chicketts.

It's bad enough that the man was obviously so twisted that he resorted to this deed, bringing in strangers to finish what he could not. There just seems to be so little decency in reporting things like this anymore.

Wouldn't blame mom either-sometimes its hard to tell just how gone a person really is.
 
I agree she was distraught Matt, but why wasn't she saying something like, "Why, Daddy, Why did you do it?" or "Daddy, you didn't have to do it."

I loved my Father dearly, he was the greatest and I miss him every day of my life and he's been gone for 27 years. But if he had done something like this I would be angry at HIM for the way he chose to leave this world.

Also I bet there had been other signs that the deceased man in the above story has some mental problems. Why didn't the loving daughter do more to HELP her father before it went that far?

The dead man's family is just as distraught now as they would have been if he has done the deed himself. But in taking the cowards way out now he has impacted the lives of other innocent families.


Just my opinion. I guess we can agree to disagree here.
 
One of these days, the reporter who goes rushing up the the survivor of one of these terrible shootings and asks "how does it feel?" is going to find their teeth on the sidewalk like a pack of spit out chicketts.
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When the only tool in your toolbox is a hammer, all your problems begin to look like nails.
 
Nice cliche... NOT

When the only tool in your toolbox is a hammer, all your problems begin to look like nails.
In this instance that is one of the lamest arguments I have ever heard. :rolleyes:

After getting a report saying "I've just killed everyone in the house I'll be in the backyard waiting for you." What would you do? Send in officers with Tasers drawn? Pepper spray at the high ready?

GET REAL ! :fire:

Do you know how long it takes a running man with a knife to move 30 feet?
You're damn lucky IF you can STOP him in time with a handgun.

There is also the possibility he may have been known by the officers to have a drinking/mental problem.
 
The nut and his family are better off with this outcome. If this sounds insensitive then I am communicating well. Perhaps the family would have felt better if at least one of the officers had been sliced and diced before going to arms. I smell a lawsuit.
Will
 
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