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Then the terrorists won with a single blow, didn't they Art?
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Then the terrorists won with a single blow, didn't they Art?
dasmi
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Yes, they did.
And we don't have the balls to fight back.
Vernal45
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I am still waiting for someone to explain to me why this man was stopped in the first place.
And, yes, terrorism has won, and we have helped the terrorists beat us.
And, yes, terrorism has won, and we have helped the terrorists beat us.
Vernal45
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Nah, wont call, I just figured you would know, since you seem to know everything.
Now Vernal that wasn't nice.
But I'll answer you centac. I won't call because I have this unnatural fear that I might illegally be detained, tased and arrested. Denied my right to a phone call, and speedy due process.
Again I'm sure that's just me, I am rather paranoid you know...
But I'll answer you centac. I won't call because I have this unnatural fear that I might illegally be detained, tased and arrested. Denied my right to a phone call, and speedy due process.
Again I'm sure that's just me, I am rather paranoid you know...
Art Eatman
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"Won" is, in a way, a poor choice of words. Implicit is that the terrorists had given any thought whatsoever to what we consider to be Civil Rights inherent in our very existence.
But, yeah, if changing us from a free people to a nation composed of possible suspects is "winning", they won.
However, IMO, they merely accelerated a process which began with the rise of the importance of the central government, as it increased its meddling in our daily lives. IMO, it's not unreasonable to say it began during the Great Depression and sped up with the initiation of the Great Society.
Anytime you see someone propose to initiate a "Great..." or a "War On...", cuida'o, hombre, and hang on to your billfold.
You think I'm a cynic? That I'm pessimistic? Try this:
http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15500
Robert L Kocher is at it again; there is something there to offend practically everyone. ('Cept me. ) It's very, very long, so I recommend having it as a separate window and reading just a bit at a time. It's a bit much to go through all at once. (FWIW, he likes the .44 Maggie.)
Art
But, yeah, if changing us from a free people to a nation composed of possible suspects is "winning", they won.
However, IMO, they merely accelerated a process which began with the rise of the importance of the central government, as it increased its meddling in our daily lives. IMO, it's not unreasonable to say it began during the Great Depression and sped up with the initiation of the Great Society.
Anytime you see someone propose to initiate a "Great..." or a "War On...", cuida'o, hombre, and hang on to your billfold.
You think I'm a cynic? That I'm pessimistic? Try this:
http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15500
Robert L Kocher is at it again; there is something there to offend practically everyone. ('Cept me.
) It's very, very long, so I recommend having it as a separate window and reading just a bit at a time. It's a bit much to go through all at once. (FWIW, he likes the .44 Maggie.)Art
2nd Amendment
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I chose that word specifically for the reason you note. These people don't have any hope, thought or intention of physically "beating" us. Can't be done and they know it, or their leadership does. So if you want to beat an unbeatable enemy, and aren't happy with a few thousand random deaths what *do* you do?
Get the maximum bang for your buck. And remember, many of these people were educated in the US, or have family that were. They grasp our concept of Rights well enough to use them against us, even if they could never function fully within them. So you use your abilities to make your enemy destroy himself. And when he sacrifices the freedom and Rights that define him then you have indeed "won", correct? You don't have to kill 'em all, just turn them into something else.
Modern alchemy.
Get the maximum bang for your buck. And remember, many of these people were educated in the US, or have family that were. They grasp our concept of Rights well enough to use them against us, even if they could never function fully within them. So you use your abilities to make your enemy destroy himself. And when he sacrifices the freedom and Rights that define him then you have indeed "won", correct? You don't have to kill 'em all, just turn them into something else.
Modern alchemy.
JohnBT
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So, you've thrown in the towel?
I haven't.
John
I haven't.
John
rock jock
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A threat, no. The subject of ridicule, most definitely!
I know I'm having a good laugh.
dustind
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At a guy with a tumor?
2nd Amendment
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Nor have I, but that doesn't stop me from realizing how the game is being played or from seeing how many people have indeed left the field to hide on the sidelines.
cropcirclewalker
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Mr. Eatman said:
Why is it that the biggest, fattest, most obtuse guy in the class gets the name of "Tiny"?
Nevertheless, "Honest Abe"
but I am of the opinion that it began with our President which cured us from slavery, namely good ol' Honest Abe.
Why is it that the biggest, fattest, most obtuse guy in the class gets the name of "Tiny"?
Nevertheless, "Honest Abe"
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