Polycase Ammo

[OpticsPlanet]

Has anyone tried Polycase ammo? Currently only offered in .380 ACP and 9mm Luger....

Lead free projectiles made from polymer....currently they have RNP, ARX (spiral self defense round), and firefly which is a tracer.

I love the concept of 3d printing ammo so this is a step in the right direction

I'll probably throw some money at it to do a line up test but was just wondering if anyone out there has beat me to it

http://polycaseammo.com/products/polycase-rnp

"The PolyCase RNP changes everything you know about ammunition. The extreme precision of the RNP projectile is coupled with the lightweight, low-friction and low-recoil polymer cartridge case technology.

POLYMER CASE: Patent-pending polymer cartridge cases, a technology whose time has come. Lighter weight, same performance.
CONSISTENT PERFORMANCE: Designed and tested to SAAMI® standards.
PRECISE: Injection molded RNP™ projectiles deliver exceptional accuracy.
ON TARGET. EVERY TIME: The PolyCase® RNP™ projectile is injection-molded, resulting in bullets with excellent concentricity and accuracy.
HIGH VELOCITY: High velocity means flatter trajectories for better accuracy over distance.
LOW RECOIL: The RNP™ delivers higher velocity with less recoil.
REDUCED RICOCHET: RNP™ is range compliant and approved for use against steel targets.
ADVANCED MATERIALS: Designed to perform in a wide range of conditions.
PATENT PEN

Thoughts? Otherwise I'll put up a range report once I get a shipment

-Matt S.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

Maybe it's too much coffee...

maybe too little.

I'm very confused by the link.


Are they talking about polymer projectiles, polymer cartridge cases, both? They say cartridge cases but show what appears to be brass in the photo.

They talk about the projectile being coupled with: " ...low-recoil polymer cartridge case technology." Thereby separating the terms.

If they are in fact speaking to Poly cartridge cases - that's old tech. We were very happy with PMC's poly cased .223 years back.

Not that this isn't noteworthy, just not "chang(ing) everything you know about ammunition."

I'd like to see some but as my chosen carry .380 is among the heaviest in its class - I'm not sure I can really capitalize on the benefits.

Todd.

 

[wally]

If its less than $0.10 per round and knocks down steel plates at 10-25 yards I'll be all over it!

Otherwise, see little point to it.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

If its less than $0.10 per round and knocks down steel plates at 10-25 yards I'll be all over it!

Otherwise, see little point to it.

But WALLY, it's only .380. From what I usually read - .380 barely makes it outa the barrel to get stopped by things like paper, denim, tee-shirts and the like.

How ya gonna "knock down steel plates"?

Realistically though, I too want to know the price. I'd love to have an inexpensive .380 for my wife to get a lot more practice in with as well as some formal training.

Todd.

 

[Sam1911]

It is confusing ad copy. At the very least the bullets are a polymer-copper blend that's injection-molded into molds, not melted and poured.

It does look like brass cased ammo, though I don't see why it would HAVE to be.

 

[wally]

At the very least the bullets are a polymer-copper blend that's injection-molded into molds

With the price of copper, I'm betting it won't meet my price criterion.

Why not something cheaper in the mix like bits of cast iron with a polymer coating to protect the barrel? We need another ~$1.00 a round "magic bullet" like a hole in the head. There is and never was a shortage of "self-defense" ammo, its the range ammo that is missing and too expensive when you do find it.

 

[ku4hx]

I'm guessing the polycases can't be reloaded. That alone kills it for me.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pol...ound-nose-50-rounds-2250-free-shippin;400;400

 

[Gordon]

I bought 50 poly cased (with a metal case head) .223 with the non lead bullet a couple years back and they only could be fired in a bolt gun a coulple times before being ramroded out. No AR use , NO Saiiga use , no single shot use. Now maybe pistol ammo MIGHT work, but I am not betting my life , nor wasting my time & money.

 

[wally]

I'm guessing the polycases can't be reloaded. That alone kills it for me.

If they came in at the same cost as my reloads and have adequate performance (knocking down steel plates at 10-25 yards for handguns) that will kill the bulk of my reloading for the calibers they offer.

 

[Mauserguy]

I'm with Wally. Some kind of coated iron bullet is the way to go. There is more and more pressure to eliminate lead from ammo so this will come some day, but the ammo will have to perform reasonably well. Iron bullets have been used for over a century, so they have a track record. They are inexpensive and though not as dense as lead, they are close enough to be functional. The one problem with iron (soft iron or soft steel, not hardened steel like AP rounds) is that they are hard on the guns bore. A polymer jacket may address that deficiency.
Mauserguy

 

[243winxb]

See "Select A Page"

From website 380 bullets for reloading.

PolyCase Cu/P™ bullets are precision injection-molded from a cutting-edge copper-polymer matrix.

Photo of 380 bullet Looks like the bullets are loaded in Brass.

 

[dogtown tom]

They lost me at "Lateral Force Dispersion"

Must be the same designers as Extreme Shock Nytrillium Fang Face rounds.

 

[Thermactor]

I don't like the way this ammo is marketed for the following reasons:
1) The manufacturers cannot compete on price.
2) Therefore, they create FUD about lead and, one way or another, create a market for themselves by buying legislation that restricts the use of lead ammunition.

 

[Wishoot]

Extreme Shock Nytrillium Fang Face rounds.

Aren't those the rounds that cause spontaneous human decapitation?

 

[hso]

It is a unsintered powder metallurgy projectile made of Cu in a polymer matrix/binder. The approach of injection molding bullets was used previously on sintered powder bullets out of a tech transfer from Oak Ridge National Laboratories. It gave great control over the weight and structure of the projectiles which gave great control over the performance.

In this case they're not welding the particles together by sintering and simply injection molding the bullets.

If they have the precision in control of the mixture during injection they'll produce a very consistent projectile.

Price is roughly $1/round ($25 for 25) for 9mm so it isn't competitive unless the defensive performance is very impressive.