Polymer single stack 45acp pistol choices

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zaitcev said:
Shield 45 is the winner in this category, easily. You just have to find a holster with a sweat guard, wear and undershirt, or otherwise avoid it rubbing your skin.
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Bbl's a little short at 3.3" (~ 2-7/16" effective)... but minimally acceptable for contact range SD.

On the other hand...

The G36's 3.78" Bbl (~ 2-15/16" effective)... w/ +P 230 gr. ammo, will provide std. pressure/service length Bbl performance.

A plus in my book.




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JTQ said:
Out of production, but Ruger at one time produced the P97 and the P345
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tercel89 said:
I have a P90 , it's single stack but not very slim LOL . Same size as the P89 double-stack .
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While all three use the same magazines and the P90 and P97 are similar dimensionally, the P345 is slimmer (at least in the grip) than a 1911.

Of course they are all out of production, and no longer supported by Ruger.
 
Garandimal said:
Bbl's a little short at 3.3" (~ 2-7/16" effective)... but minimally acceptable for contact range SD.

On the other hand...

The G36's 3.78" Bbl (~ 2-15/16" effective)... w/ +P 230 gr. ammo, will provide std. pressure/service length Bbl performance.

A plus in my book.




GR
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Worth noting that according to my calipers my HK45c with Talon grips is the same 1.18" grip width that the G36 is listed at. With 8 round flush fitting and 10 round extended mags optional.

The top of the slide (since it tapers) is thinner than the Glocks blocky 1" as well.
 
JR24 said:
Worth noting that according to my calipers my HK45c with Talon grips is the same 1.18" grip width that the G36 is listed at. With 8 round flush fitting and 10 round extended mags optional.

The top of the slide (since it tapers) is thinner than the Glocks blocky 1" as well.
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Not that a smidgen of width matters, but Glock measures the 36's width at the bumps on the grip as indicated by the red arrow.

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A G36 is really just a right angle away from being nearly the same size as a 2" barreled .38 Special revolver.
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chicharrones said:
Not that a smidgen of width matters, but Glock measures the 36's width at the bumps on the grip as indicated by the red arrow.

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A G36 is really just a right angle away from being the same size as a 2" barreled .38 Special revolver.
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Thanks I was wondering about that, since on the main grip the HK is almost exactly the same as my Gen 5 19.

It's been quite a few years since I held a 36, but it was the first Glock that felt good to me before I changed my mind about being a Glock hater.
 
chicharrones said:
Not that a smidgen of width matters, but Glock measures the 36's width at the bumps on the grip as indicated by the red arrow.

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A G36 is really just a right angle away from being the same size as a 2" barreled .38 Special revolver.
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Yep, 1.18" at the thumb rest.

1.10" at the grip.

Also, 22.4 oz. empty as opposed to 28.5 for the H&K, plus the additional weight of the extra Two .45 ACP rounds, call it 35.2 oz loaded.

The G36 is ~ 27.6 oz loaded.




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Garandimal said:
Yep, 1.18" at the thumb rest.

1.10" at the grip.

Also, 22.4 oz. empty as opposed to 28.5 for the H&K, plus the additional weight of the extra Two .45 ACP rounds, call it 35.2 oz loaded.

The G36 is ~ 27.6 oz loaded.




GR
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Mine has talon grips, but my scale says 35.7 oz loaded with 9 230 grain HST.

Nice estimate.

My original post was just to show that the nebulous request of single stack might not need to exclude double stacks depending on how thin the OP was looking for.

Guess I should probably have said that :)

(By the way your posts often have me wanting to pick up a 36 some day, still kinda regret passing on one years back for a great deal)
 
Garandimal said:
G36 compared to the G19/23...




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That just makes me wish even more that Glock had stuck with the 19/23 length grip with a full mag instead of the hybrid. It's already almost that tall, would have had a more comfortable grip (IMO, no pinching from recoil or reloads) and could probably have crammed one more round in.
 
GBExpat said:
I feel compelled to ask ... what is your issue with the grip safety on the XDS45? Concern about not being able to add a "grip accessory"?

I bought a 3.3" XDs45 in Aug'13 and a Mod2 of the same form-factor pistol 6 years later (the Mod2 is my current carry piece). Other than having to send the 1st one back to the mothership for recall "upgrade" right after purchase, I have never experienced any problem with either pistol.

I have never been a fan of the pineapple-grenade grip-treatment on the original, but a bicycle innertube sleeve fixed that for me. :)

Just wondering.
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I have an XD9 and my hand doesn't always engage the grip safety.
 
JR24 said:
That just makes me wish even more that Glock had stuck with the 19/23 length grip with a full mag instead of the hybrid. It's already almost that tall, would have had a more comfortable grip (IMO, no pinching from recoil or reloads) and could probably have crammed one more round in.
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That was initially a gripe for me as well, pairing it w/ the G23.

But having worked w/ it for a while, it has actually turned out to be a plus.

Being a 6-round mag, rapid "tactical" reloads are a major benefit.

The "knob" greatly aids this when orienting and forking the mags during the reload.

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Garandimal said:
That was initially a gripe for me as well, pairing it w/ the G23.

But having worked w/ it for a while, it has actually turned out to be a plus.

Being a 6-round mag, rapid "tactical" reloads are a major benefit.

The "knob" greatly aids this when orienting and forking the mags during the reload.

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GR
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That makes sense. Back when I shot a lot and carried a 30 and a 30S I always had 21 mags for reloads so I didn't consider that aspect.
 
Note that G36 is a little lighter than Shield 45, although its magazine is so stupid heavy that the difference disappears if you insert magazines into them (almost means less than 10 g). I think the grip of G36 is more comfortable: Shield's grip is exceedingly flat, which concentrates recoil (XD-S is even worse still). I stuck with the Shield primarily because of factory magazine options and reliability.
 
Not really my cup of tea, but I do have a Smith & Wesson M&P Shield in .45acp. It's the only .45acp I currently have that will reliably feed Federal 230gr Hi-Shok JHP (in non-descript white box deal). I purchased a case around 3 or 4 years ago due to the crazy low price but found shortly after none of my 1911s would reliably feed them.

I found the Shield would feed them just fine. I still prefer steel for the .45acp... well, the 1911 essentially. However, my .45 acp Shield seems to be a reliable polymer single-stack
 
Someone mentioned that the Shield 45's barrel is a little on the short side.....
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Spats McGee said:
Someone mentioned that the Shield 45's barrel is a little on the short side.....
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I had a Shield in 45. The tolerences on it were out of spec and the the milling underneath the slide that looked like "scallops" were susposedly to "slow down" the cyclic rate. To me thats a band-aid for a problem.
 
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