Poor man's recoil reducer??

[Ed3]

I bought (for my son, but he's been shooting my 1100 and won't give it back!) a Win 1300 pump that actually fits well and I can hit most trap and skeet targets with it. However, I'm a little concerned that all of the clay shooting I've been doing lately might re-awaken a latent TMJ problem that caused me to stop 12 years ago.

I've already added a Limbsaver slip-on (outstanding product) and recently tried adding lead weight (about 10oz.) in the stock...bad idea! I couldn't hit the side of a barn (5 targets vs 20's avg.) last weekend in trap and quickly retreated to the skeet field with my O/U 20ga. to recuperate. Needless to say, I knocked all the lead out once I got home.

There's a product called the "Poor man's recoil reducer" that's basically a weight that's spliced into the forearm magazine and is free to bounce forward and back to reduce felt recoil. Anyone have any experience? I'm thinking I might just have to steal back the 1100 though my son's really shooting well with it (he beat me 3 out of 8 rounds in skeet last weekend!).

Ed

 

[nico]

Do you mean this? I have one and I think it's great. Not to sound like an advertisement, but it basically does everything they claim. Felt recoil is significantly reduced, muzzle rize is reduced. I don't mean to exaggerate too much, but the recoil in my SX2 with it installed is closer to shooting an AR15 from a bench than it is to my dad's Benelli. I know it's a weird comparison, but I haven't fired a big variety of guns. When I got it, I was a little concerned that it would wear the inside of the magazine tube so I put a couple drops of CLP on it. 1000 rounds later the mag tube looks fine and there's no noticeable wear on the recoil reducer. I would highly recommend it for any gas gun. The only downside is that it does make the gun noticeably heavier, but it does feel like it swings better so the weight isn't all bad. I'm currently waiting for them to finish the mechanical shell catcher for my gun.

 

[Ed3]

Nico, that's the one. My concern is having that weight beating on the magazine and breaking something. Can you tell if it actually make contact at either end of the stroke? I'm guessing you have to cut the original spring, yes? Otherwise, it sounds like it's worth a try. Thanks for the reply!

Regards,
Ed

 

[nico]

it comes with a spring that's meant to be used with it, so no alteration to the factory spring is required. It basically replaces the hunting plug so it doesn't go anywhere near the butt end of the mag tube and it has a big chunk of rubber on the end that sits against the mag tube cap. I haven't noticed any unusual wear in my mag tube and the cap seems to be holding just as tight as it always has. I mainly use the gun for trap singles so I don't usually have more than one shell in the gun, but the few times I've shot doubles and skeet with it, the gun has cycled just fine.

 

[45auto]

Ha, he's young and starting to beat you...switch guns.

Other than selling the pump and buying another used 1100, I'd try a combo of things. A good recoil pad, try adding perhaps 5-6 oz's of weight to see if the balance works for you. And the cheapest is to reduce your 12 gauge load down both in shot weight and velocity. Perhaps a 1 ounce at 1150 fps or try a 7/8 oz if you can.

 

[Dave McCracken]

First, reconcile yourself to the fact that your 1100 is gone forever. In a good cause though.

Second, anyone with a reloader and an extra mag spring can duplicate Morton's mechanism, I did, and wrote about it on a thread back on TFL.

Even easier, is using light loads. You'd be surprised how many straights at trap can be run with 7/8 oz loads. Betcha your skeet scores with that 20 gauge parallel your 12 gauge records. More 7/8 oz loads.

HTH....

 

[Ed3]

Yup, I'm new to O/U's and never shot a 20ga. before, but my scores are at least as good! I bought the 20 to see if I could head off a flinch I experienced after a busy day with the 12ga. about a month ago. So far so good.

I've been buying bulk of whatever's on hand in light target - so far, I can safely say that the ammo buyers for Walmart and etc. haven't heard of the trend towards light loads.

My son went from 0/125 to consistent 20+ in trap and skeet - keeping me on my toes! The 1100 (which was a loaner from my dad until he told me I could keep it, just last week!) is most definitely lost and I couldn't be happier! Now, instead of remaining hidden upstairs on the computer, he bounds down the stairs to see me when I get home.

A new gun.....Great idea!

Ed

 

[Agent Schmuckatelli]

From The Desk of Agent Schmuckatelli, ATF...

Dear THRers,

My good pal cpileri says that last post by Ed3 warms his heart.

He wants to know how old your boy is and wether or not you 'prepped' him to love firearms early in life. He has a 3-year old and wonders if he's too young for those cheap plastic bb launching gadgets that come free with chepaerthandirt orders- if only to get him to love shooting and hanging out with his old man in the next few years.

I post this for him only cuz I dont have a heart to warm.

Regards,
S-

 

[Ed3]