Post pictures of your pump shotguns!

[Darkmind]

My HD scattergun, as Uncle Sam would issue to his Misguided Children...

Um Uncle sam doesent issue 870s to the Corps. And he hasent for a long number of years.

 

[Gewehr98]

Umm, dude, ok. If you say so.

The Remington 870 Mk1, aka "Shotgun, 12-Gage, Remington, M870, MK1, Riot" NSN 1005-00-143-8509 is simply a figment of one's imagination. I do so love it when people call me a liar.

Remington 870 "Wingmaster" was introduced by Remington in 1950, and since then become one of the most popular USA-made pump action all-purpose shotguns. Beginning it's life as a versatile hunting shotgun, available in many different configurations and gauges, in early 1970s Remington 870 was adopted by US Military - in 1966 US Marine Corps purchased some thousands of the Remington 870 Mk.1 shoguns (along with Mossberg 590 and Winchester 1200). Military shotguns have extended magazines for 7 or 8 rounds, bayonet mounts, heat shields around the barrels and non-glare, protective and rust-resistant finishes.

As military requirements for combat shotguns were recognized in the Vietnam war, the Model 870 was selected for acquisition by the Marine Corps in 1966 followed by other services in the 1970s, including the USAF Security Police. As issued, it was equipped with sling swivels and a bayonet adapter for the M7 bayonet used with the M16 series rifles.

This was originally a USMC development of the Remington 870P that was designed in the mid-1960s, and saw long service with that organization until officially replaced by the Mossberg M590 in the early 1990s. However, large numbers of these shotguns were still in service at the time of the Twilight War, both with all branches of the regular US Military and reserve forces (particularly with the Army National Guard). Mark 1 through Mark 6 versions were produced, but only the Mark 1, 3, and 6 versions were produced in any large numbers. The Mark 1 is the most common version, with an extended magazine, bayonet lug, and rifle-type sights; the Mark 3 is the same weapon with a bayonet lug. The Mark 6 is the Air Force security version, with a shorter barrel and shorter tubular magazine; it is basically the civilian 870P 20-inch barrel version with the addition a bayonet lug, rifle-type sights, and more durable chrome in the barrel to better stand up to the firing of slugs.

And that's what our young Marine friend here is carrying:



Seen from a different angle:



Look familiar to the one posted above?

Care to respond?

 

[Third_Rail]

Where did you get that? It's beautiful!

 

[Darkmind]

Once again I will state!

Um Uncle sam doesn't issue 870s to the Corps. And he hasn't for a long number of years.

replaced by the Mossberg M590 in the early 1990s

I never said that it WAS NOT issued, I said that it has not been an issued item in the Marine Corps inventory for a long number of years.

What 15 years + or - is not a long time?

And that's what our young Marine friend here is carrying:

And for those of us that were there IE Security Forces, and yes that Marine on that boat you see there is a Security Forces Marine ( really old pic ), Know that the 870s and Winchester 1200 are not an issued weapon and have not been an issued weapon since the early 1990s.


And that being said I NEVER CALLED YOU A LIAR!

Please reread my post at the top and then look at your internet facts. If you read very carefully you'll see that the 870 was replace by the 590 in the early 1990s meaning that its no longer an issued weapon!

Instead of just pulling facts off the internet why don't you ask some one that was in Marine Corps Security Forces ( SF uses more shotguns than the Corps in a whole ) and was there and knows whats issued to the Marines and whats not issued to the Marines. O wate that would be me.

 

[Gewehr98]

So those 870 Mk1 shotguns were never issued?

I saw my first one as a guest of a USAF security forces team back in 1986, doing a silo intruder exercise at F.E. Warren AFB. One of their techniques was to point the shotgun up through the hatch and fire up the access shaft at the intruder. That's what intrigued me enough to go find my own, as seen in the picture. As I approach my 20th year of active duty service, I've seen more than a few still in armories and patrol vehicles. And ever since I've visited Quantico and Okinawa, there's a Marine or two who love to start an argument. Some things never change. And, no, 15+ years is NOT a long time, if you've been in for longer than that.

So I stand by my statement that my 870 Mk1 is "as-issued", considering I've been on active duty damn near as long as you've been alive. I've also been issued M-38 and M1911's, long before the M9 became the standard. Will you argue that a good-looking M1911 wouldn't be "as-issued", simply because it's not in the TOE since you visited the recruiter? I'm well aware the Mossberg 590 entered service in the 1990's. I could care less. I've seen lots of things issued, just like other GI's on this forum. Many were issued M1 Garands. So they're perfectly in their right to call their rifles "as issued".

I've also got a M1903A4 that's in "as-issued" condition. Nowhere in my postings did I state that the 870Mk1 above, or the M1903A4 is in "as currently issued" condition, did I? Of course not. But from one GI to another, thank you for your service, and the additional insight into your character...

 

[LiquidTension]

Here ya go

Sorry, that's the only pic I have of it. You might have to scroll over a bit...

 

[Darkmind]

argument

Whats wrong with a little heated discussion or argument if you prefer to use that word?


OOOO ok ok ok, I see where I went wrong. Lets take a look

My HD scattergun, as Uncle Sam would issue to his Misguided Children...

Ok when you said "Misguided Children" I thought you were referring to Marines. Misguided children is a common term for Marines. And the way you said it sounded to me like you were talking current events. O well so I miss read it.

So thats why I said this

Um Uncle sam doesn't issue 870s to the Corps. And he hasn't for a long number of years.

So where did we go wrong with this? I stated that 870s do not get issued to the Corps and they haven't for quite some time. No where in that statement did I say that they were never issued.

Yes I agree with you that there are some still running around maybe more so for you because your in the Air Force but in my company we only had 2 1200s and 3 870s waiting to be sent somewhere to be destroyed because they were non functioning and had not been used for god knows how many years. Just because they where there does not mean that they are issued weapons. Any time we went out for work or play and we needed shotties we were issued the 590s.

So I stand by my statement that my 870 Mk1 is "as-issued",

I'm not debating the term "as-issued". But you seem to want to compare my use of the word issued with your use of the word as-issued. Two different words with two different meanings.

So those 870 Mk1 shotguns were never issued?

Once again I never said that they were never issued. I said that they do not get issued anymore!

considering I've been on active duty damn near as long as you've been alive

So you where born before me . . . big deal! And why are you cussing?What are you trying to prove? Would it make you happy if I told you that I can't do 20 years and I'm no longer on active duty because I'm not physically capable to do so, and that I could not reenlist due to that.

 

[Third_Rail]

Please cool off, I'd like this thread to remain open.

 

[Trisha]

Two thousand rounds of 00 Buck and Brenneke slug later:

 

[ReadyontheRight]

LiquidTension -- Drool! Nice to see a big collection all in one pic where you can actually see the guns.

Lotsa sweet shotguns in this thread too!

 

[LiquidTension]

RotR - They aren't all mine, unfortunately. That's a group pic of most of the longarms from the last SC THR shoot. From the AK underfolder to the Yugo on the right, those 5 are mine. We didn't get a pic of the pistols because we never even made it out to the pistol range.

 

[ReadyontheRight]

Even better -- guns of shooting buddies.

 

[HMdoc]

Here's my Rem 870 Police magnum

and my Lanber 2097

 

[Ringer]

Here is my original pair of 870s..

Here is the shorty as configured now. Not a lot of changes - Surefire 9 volt forend light and Hogue stock. I like the palm swell and texture of the stock.

 

[dghboy315]

870
18.5" bbl IC
speedfeed IV-short pistol grip stock (13" LOP)
wilson tactical 2 round mag extension
vang comp jumbo saftey
surefire 6v fore end
blue force SOC-C sling (set up in a modified 3-point sling, where i rear sling point is at the sling point sling plate, this becomes a single point sling if the front fastex clip is unhooked)

same gun w/ the sling set up in a standard 2 point sling config. this is a great sling

 

[Rupestris]

Well, I finally broke down nd bought a camera .
I need to get these outside and take some pix in some good light. Unfortunately its 14*F here .

The first pic is my 870 12gauge on the right and my sons 870 20 gauge WM on the left. Both have FO sights.

Second pic is just a bonus for Dave. A little trip down memory lane if you will .

 

[Crownvicman]

Here is my Remington 870. It is marked "Wingmaster" on the side of the receiver, but has numbers stamped on the forearm and receiver that make me think it was a security or police weapon at one time. $150 at a gunshow and no problems yet.

 

[Dave McCracken]

Rupestris, thanks. It looks just like TUSIHC did....

Some nice looking shotguns here.

 

[Gordon]

Top, old 60's Wingmaster magnum, converted By Robar in the 80's: Black Roggard finish, "anti-jam grind" (before flexi tab) , Win choke (before Rem choke), fabricated fold up protected ghost ring and front post sights +2 Remington mag extension.. Has an early Laser devices (became Sure fire ) 6v light,Wilson side saddle (which is a Tac star!), recent Houge 12" stock and GG&G single point sling with MOUT sling.Notice I wore the teflon off in 17 years of pumping! This is my main battle shottie.
lower gun is a flexitab early 90's Wingmaster Magnum, Choate extension, Vang back bored and choked (but not ported) barrel with vent rib and glowing sight bead.While I don't like folding or especially pistol grip only stocks, this one (a Remington non LEO marked with solid pistol grip) fits in a special place in my motorhome , or in a suitcase! It is my 'travel shottie'.

 

[DevLcL]

I think I wanna get the AR stock because the top folder is kinda unsturdy. Other then the sling and folder she's a stock winchester 1300 defender.

The shirt says Devon and LCL, (which is where I get the name DevLcL) it was drawn on a sketch pad by my best mate who died some months back.

Also I never liked the flamboyant little cartoon character much.

 

[warriorsociologist]

Nice! How old is it?

I haven't looked up its serial number yet (s345041v). but I would guess mid-1970's.

 

[VG]

1979 manufacture 870 Police. Unmolested save the exchange of a left-hand safety trigger assembly.

 

[Third_Rail]

VG, that's a pretty shotgun!

 

[flip180]

Here's mine.

For things that go bump in the night .


Flip.

 

[Black_Talon]

1975 870 Police:



2003 870 Police: