Powder for 44mag 210gr bullets?

[MovedWest]

I already have my favorite 240gr JHP loads dialed in, but I'd like something on the lighter faster side in 210gr JHP's. Specifically the Winchester STHP's. I bought a ton of them thinking they'd make great 44spl bullets, but they're really meant for 44mag velocities.

I'm looking to get about 1350-1450fps out of one of these bullets with excellent accuracy. Here are the powders I have to work with:

2400
Unique
Green Dot
700x
IMR 4227

These will be fired out of a Ruger SBH 7.5" barrel. Thanks in advance!

-MW

 

[rcmodel]

Of the powders you listed, only 2400 will give you the highest velocity with a 210 grain bullet.

Lyman #49 lists a Win Silvertip 210 out of a 4" test barrel.
21.0 grains 2400 starting load giving 1,090
And a 23.3 MAX load giving 1,285.

IMR-4227 would also work, but will be about 85 FPS slower with a compressed charge MAX load.

rc

 

[MovedWest]

Thanks RC. I just did some more rummaging through my books and found that any of the decent loads with IMR 4227 are compressed. That's just something I'd rather not mess with.

I thought about using 2400, but wanted something a bit lighter. Maybe I should lower my fps down into the Unique range? What's your experience with 210gr bullets over 10~14gr over Unique?

-MW

 

[rcmodel]

Unique will do very well for mid-power .44 mag loads in the 1,000 - 1,100 range.

I thought you said you wanted barn burners at "1350-1450fps" is why I recomended 2400?

rc

 

[MovedWest]

I thought you said you wanted barn burners at "1350-1450fps" is why I recomended 2400?

I'm open to suggestions. I was thinking a lighter bullet would be faster, but it looks like it won't be that much faster. A 1100fps round will probably be okay for what I'm looking for.

Glad you're responding - you always seem to have the right answer.

-MW

 

[MovedWest]

Come to think of it, would there be other powders to consider other than the ones I mentioned? I'm not opposed to buying more powder, but I was hoping to use some of the ones I have.

-MW

 

[Eb1]

With a 240 grain JHP in 44 Magnum I am averaging 1120 fps. I would think you could get faster than that with a 210 grain and Unique.

Look here:


http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/recipedetail.aspx?gtypeid=1&weight=210&shellid=33&bulletid=44

THIS IS WITH A 210 GRAIN SPEER GDHP
OAL BAR PRIMER POWDER CHARGE FPS
1.6 7.5 CCI 300 Unique 12.5 1,392
1.6 7.5 CCI 300 Power Pistol 14.5 1,504
1.6 7.5 CCI 300 2400 23.5 1,566

 

[Walkalong]

Come to think of it, would there be other powders to consider other than the ones I mentioned?

2400 will work great, but since you asked, AA #9 & N-110 are real good as well.

I do not "download" .41 or .44 Mag persay, although I have a couple of "reduced recoil" loads for them. Probably 90% of max. I still use AA #9 or N-110 powders for that though. I bought those calibers to go boom.

No reason not to download either of them to plinker levels with medium speed, or a tad faster, powders.

I have a 250 Gr 600ish FPS .45 Colt load that has great ES & SD numbers, is very accurate, and I can shoot it all day. Even some "recoil sensitive" friends like to shoot it. That way they get to shoot a "large" gun, without the recoil.

 

[Eb1]

Well. I guess since you are missing 3.5" 1120 might be what you get with a 210 grainer.