Practice Distances for Concealed Carry Pistol

[Kleanbore]

So the original posit was someone armed with a contact weapon? (Checks OP....) Nope.

I was discussing this part of the OP:

The regulations and class lectures didn't have any sort of distance limit. I also think this advice comes from an assumption that one isn't dealing with an assailant armed with a firearm.

My reply was consitent wit that statement:

That "notion" manifests itself in the legal requirement that a deadly attacker be imminent. It comes into play when the attacker has not actually displayed a firearm. It is based on the distance within which an attacker with a contact weapon can pose an imminent danger.

And I even mentioned someone armed with a rifle; that would seem fairly clear I was discussing someone armed with a firearm.

Obviously.

An attacker firing at you from across a parking lot (easily more than 25 yards, or 50, in fact) would pose an 'imminent' threat in the use-of-force instructor classes I've taken;

That is self-evident.

Can you show some source claiming they wouldn't?

Do you know of anyone who would contend otherwise?

 

[DT Guy]

I was discussing this part of the OP:

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My reply was consitent wit that statement:

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Obviously.

That is self-evident.


Do you know of anyone who would contend otherwise?

Lordy.....



Larry

 

[shafter]

While I think that most practice should involve drawing from concealment and making fast, accurate hits at close range, there is nothing wrong or unwise about practicing at longer distances too. Shooting well at longer distances requires better mastery of the fundamentals such as front sight focus and trigger pull. Getting better at those will help you do better at any distance.

 

[Hangingrock]

I do not Pull the Trigger but rather Press it.

 

[LightninST]

I do not Pull the Trigger but rather Press it.

Squeeze the Trigger ! All practice will help .
Shoot both practice ammo and Carry ammo .

 

[rdnktrkr]

Something we have started putting in our range days is doing something to increase blood flow, we shoot at 10 and 20 paces from our table, we use paper plates shooting 1 mag then running to a tree and back then firing second mag, our thought being that in a self defense situation your adrenaline would be elevated, it is harder to stay in the center of the plates on the second mag.

 

[Armednfree]

Shooting at distances is good to know, but not the most likely scenario. With experienced criminals they will be on top of you before they make a real definitive move. These are people who use violence as the first option, just as natural as you breath. You may not get any of the cues you might expect. Just because he is in what you call your personal space is not justification, and that does depend on the situation. You have to consider an outsider looking at the situation and deciding if you had reasonable belief.

One of my most practiced drills is the contact drill. Warding off the attack as you draw the handgun from concealment with one hand. Rolling that handgun at waist level and delivering shots to the opponents pelvic area. Forget about COM in this situation, but rounds in him someplace, anyplace. Then make your distance.

Understand that with an experienced thug things happen suddenly and very quickly. Several that have assaulted or attempted to assault me came out of nowhere, from completely calm to murderous instantly.

28 years in corrections walking the locks, been there, done that.

 

[Matthew Temkin]

Shooting at distances is good to know, but not the most likely scenario. With experienced criminals they will be on top of you before they make a real definitive move. These are people who use violence as the first option, just as natural as you breath. You may not get any of the cues you might expect. Just because he is in what you call your personal space is not justification, and that does depend on the situation. You have to consider an outsider looking at the situation and deciding if you had reasonable belief.

One of my most practiced drills is the contact drill. Warding off the attack as you draw the handgun from concealment with one hand. Rolling that handgun at waist level and delivering shots to the opponents pelvic area. Forget about COM in this situation, but rounds in him someplace, anyplace. Then make your distance.

Understand that with an experienced thug things happen suddenly and very quickly. Several that have assaulted or attempted to assault me came out of nowhere, from completely calm to murderous instantly.

28 years in corrections walking the locks, been there, done that.

Good advice.

 

[wcwhitey]

Take a few shots out, practice as much as you can. Whether you expect a confrontation at distance or not it will develop confidence and you will learn both your and the guns limitations.

 

[Armednfree]

If you would take most handgun and lock them in a Ransom rest you would be surprised on how accurate they can be. That being said, it's you marksmanship ability with that gun that makes the difference.

What distance does is highlight your error. When you close that group down by working on your marksmanship skills that translates across the entire range of shooting and across platforms.

For example, I would shoot my bow at ranges between 92 and 108 yards depending on the bow. It was the range I could use the tip of the arrow as a sight pin. Once I got that down 40 yards and less was simple. I had to switch to the 6 bull targets or I would be blowing the knocks off my arrows. It required perfect form to do that, and that translates across the board.

Often when I'm at the range alone I'll first stop at the 50 yard line and post bullseye targets. Shoot two hand and one hand bullseye style. Sight alignment, trigger squeeze and follow through. Moving in close it becomes that old saying, " Take your time quickly."

That being said, with a compact ccw gun don't worry about the verticle placement of the shots, the guns elevation is not sighted for that range most likely. That the group falls in the same place and is centered horizontally is what's important. Left right dispersion is generally a trigger control issue.