Prediction - Please read new reloaders

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If I ground a mark on my brass for everytime I reloaded it I would reach the point with no case to put the powder in.

Sorta like the old west outlaw carving his grips away for everybody he shot.
 
Greetings,

It is a little bit out of subject, but you may have not noticed, but I do that mark only on my magnum cases. Those are loaded very hot (but not at he maximum!!!) and stress more the brass than low pressure rounds.

Thank you
 
Since I resemble that remark -

I'd like to thank the various responders to the posts I DID make...And, let you know that without the help of some 'loaned' components, I wouldn't be reloading anything at all! I was one of those who bought a Hornady LNL AP back in December, I wanted to get in on the 'free' bullet offer, which as of yet I still haven't got (1000 .308), But I have more than enough primers for. I also wanted to load for 5.56, which I got only 1 pound of IMR 4895, and it's more than half gone and I haven't been able to get anymore. I shouldn't even have to bring up the subject of small rifle primers! I also wanted to load for .40, and I was able to get an 8 pounder of Unique, small pistol primers and some bullets,but my die set has been on backorder since December 14th!!! I haven't been able to 'successfully' reload anything in any quantity, but I have managed to make in the neighborhood of about 100+ rounds, some .308, and some .223. I was so nervous about safety, I've probably pulled about the same amount, just to check, and being new to reloading I wasn't aware of all the 'stuff' and knowledge necessary to even make a single one.I've had plenty of time to study everything I can about reloading, I bet I have over 50 reloading bookmarks alone, and have posted questions to you 'senior' members several times! So, for all you 'older' reloaders, not to worry, by the time I get tooled up to make my own, like someone said, there should be a lot of reloading equipment on the market, with no components to reload!
 
More and More I read a post and think
"You'll shoot your eye out kid"

But on the bright side At least some of them are smart enough to ask questions.
 
Greetings,

It depends:

With 44 magnums, after 12 I stop using the case. Sometimes, I get some sign of fatigue after only 7-8 loads. So I discard the case.

With 357 magnums, strangely, with the nickel plated, I can get only 6-7 loads. With the brass, I discard after I have no more room to put a mark on the rim...hehehehe

With 500 S&W, I just began to reload that caliber because my wife just bought a BFR 10 1/2. So, that caliber I do not know.

Thank you
 
Why would you ditch 357 brass just because you can't put a mark on it. Just keep on reloading it, its still good as long as the primer pockets are tight and there is no splits.
 
I reloaded in the late 80s and 90s then quit for 10 years. I recently started again and I got out every book I had and every load sheet and started over just as I had never done it before. It's really something what you forget or loose track of over the years. I wish anyone that starts would get a good book on it and read it all to get an understanding of what's involved. My son wants to start. He is 24. I couldn't keep his attention long enough to teach him so I told him he needed to forget it.

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Why would you ditch 357 brass just because you can't put a mark on it. Just keep on reloading it, its still good as long as the primer pockets are tight and there is no splits.
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Or at the very least dedicate those cases to .38 level loads.
 
As a new reloader I sometimes ask a lot of stupid question.

There are a lot of things that manuals don't cover and I would rather learn from someone else's mistakes.

If people tell me NOT to do something I tend to listen to what the majority says. Now if I am told TO do something then I am much more careful about who I listen too.
 
Kestak,

I completely agree with you. I also started reloading in the past couple of years, and I've certainly proceeded with caution along the way:

-Read three books cover to cover before I started.
-Read everything I could find on the internet.
-Asked lots of questions, and looked for answers that were common and supported by multiple people (not one Yahoo with a "great" idea).


But, many people seem to just blindly charge ahead! Some of their techniques may be fine, some may be dangerous or deadly!


(As an aside, it is just too bad I can't reload much at all right now... No primers)
 
My favorite are the people who post the same question on every forum, get a dozen responses on each forum that their practices are unsafe, and then one person will chime in and say it's ok whereupon the original poster pops up, thanks them for their advice, and off they go to put their eye out. Rant off.
 
Started shooting a long time ago, before Eisenhower was president, and loaned out my reloading gear back in the early '90's. (It's coming back real soon). As to this topic, I find that even after all those years, I must still be diligent in any action I take involving firearms and ammo. I have not yet achieved the fool proof stage......thus I find it necessary to check and recheck.
As the old carpenter said, measure twice, cut once. Double check everything. The life you save could be your own. Just saying .....
 
I had to take a step back for a few days myself from some of the posts.
I couldn't take another mag primer, heavy bullet really fast powder or light bullet slow powder post.
I thought my head was going to blow up.

What a lot of people don't think about is while they may be hurt someone around them may get killed or hurt from flying peices.

Keep asking your questions. Someone will answer them for safety's sake. (rc you have been doing a great job-but I'll still keep loading those steel cases.)

In reading this post I realized that I give out load info that I use that I shouldn't. Most of my pistol powder is 20-30 years old. Things do change. I hope people cross checked and started low and worked up.

I am sure there are a few Darwin Award Winners in making here but please load safe and have fun.

jim
 
Greetings,

I did not see only less safe practice coming up here, but also at the range. Now, we are going to shoot only on Saturday nights because it is quieter. And even before walking inside the shooting range, I ask to the guy at the counter if it is safe. Most times than not, he said to me to wait until that particular shooter goes away... :what:

There is a lot of new shooters with nooooooo idea of the basic safety rules like there is a lot of new reloaders with nooooooo idea of the basic safety rules. I think also with the current level of non-education dispensed in our high schools since 20 years, a lot of people no longer have a grasp on work of quality.

Here at the job, I get many (read MOST OF THEM) E-mails where the writer can't make the difference between your and you're and they think it is ok to write in a business E-mail the "words U and 2 instead of you and too or to. This is not people with no education, they have a high school diploma and many of them are nurses. :what:

Thank you
 
The "ethic" is missing in most of the new shooters and reloaders. It seems they are just looking for the shortest and quickest way to the end, to hell with what lies in between. I love to teach new shooters AND reloaders but I will beg off from a lot of the newbies that I feel aren't serious about learning how to do it "right". If all you want to do is throw as much lead downrange in as short a period as possible I'll let you slide to the side and be gone. And as for shooting, it only takes ONE slight slip of the safety rules and the party is over and so is our relationship.
 
Greetings,

One thing I should have added: Almost each week now, On Saturday night, I spend 20-30 minutes giving pointers to the new shooters on the line. My wife who comes with me says I am now like those old guys that go to the range more to talk than to shoot...hehehehe :neener:

About 2 months ago, there was that young guy (aroudn 21) who just bought a XD 9mm and he knew NOTHING. Another guy and I spent 2 hours to teach him to shoot and then after that I cleaned the gun with him. I can say frankly, it was a nice feeling to teach him.

On the other hand...there was that fat woman who was a recent graduate of the Police Academy here.... She was not even able to extract a magazine form her Glock...:banghead: (I put the word fat because I don't even know how she passed the PT at the academy....:what:)

My goal is simply to save one life at a time...:)

Thank you
 
The OP has a great point, but I don't believe its limited to reloading. I'm neither young nor old, but what I am noticing among nearly all age groups is what I like to call "the Mulligan mentality".
Make a mistake? Take a Mulligan.

Your car reminds you to wear your seatbelt.
Your lawn tractor won't start unless you physically sit in the seat.
Your PC tells you when your grammar or spelling is incorrect.

Notice how almost nothing these days requires any personal responsibility?

Make a mistake? Take a Mulligan
 
Responsibility

I try to teach "be responsible for your own safety" to new shooters at our range, when there is an opportunity. Not everyone wants to learn, and it can't be forced on them. For the few who seem serious about shooting, I mention that, someday, they may have an opportunity to teach safety to a newer shooter. This usually gets a smile.

This is encouraged at our range, as we have no full-time RO's. Safety is taught as a requirement for membership, and we are "self-policed".
 
I have had 2 people tell me that for loading their .303's they break down 7.62.54r and dump the powder and seat the bullet. I thought the .303 was loaded lighter than the russian round. Apparentely they have been doing this for some time w/o incident, although I'm sure it's taking it's toll on their enfields.
 
YOU JUST CAN"T FIX STUPID! and at my age I am done trying
Earlier this week I replied to a post (as well as someone other than myself who has years of experience ,(who agreed with me). My response was with page and paragraph out of a current reloading manual. The original poster had loads that were outside range limits and wanted some "ADVICE". When given, it was looked upon as merely opinion and wanted to hear what others might think. I am weary of "theoretically" intelligent persons, who, when ask for direction, refuse it because that direction is either inconvenient or just is not what they want to hear.
 
I am new to reloading. I have asked a lot of "stupid" questions, and I use the internet to find answers to my questions. However, I check several sites including the powder manufacturers site to make sure I am loading a safe round. I don't go past mid range on my loads because I don't have a chronograph yet. I have also set a routine to help keep me out of trouble.
One more "stupid" question: I have only used Hodgdon brand powder so far. Does a reloading manual give better/more information than the reloading data given on the Hodgdon web site?
 
My information is that reloading manuals typically give you more complete data for their product. For example, the Sierra manual covers almost every bullet they manufacture, but doesn't have anything on cast bullets.

Barnes has data for their bullets, but the powder data is awfully thin (by this I mean they only show a few powders, as that's all they have tested so far.)

Similarly, I've found the Hodgdon site covers most of their powders, but not necessarily every bullet/powder combination.

Nosler showcases their bullets, etc.

I'm reasonably certain this is a lot of the cause for reloaders owning multiple manuals. It's not just verifying loads between manuals...
 
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