Primer prices

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Warning for the sensitive among us <tongue in cheek humor follows> : LOL, If suddenly everybody decided NOT to pay the higher prices..........Vista, who drives the ammo/primer market now.......would breathe a sigh of relief, cut production back, fire half their new hires.........and primers would stay at exactly the same price, only more of it would be profit and the supply would drop in half. The demand drives production.....high demand = high production, investment in new workers, investment in machinery, etc. Economics 101 for those that keep on putting forward the myth that "people paying the high prices are the problem". I think most of the people who decry the free market are closet socialists. Maybe they can all get together and write AOC, Bernie, and "Brandon" a strongly worded letter begging for primer price caps! Hahahaha.
It would be interesting to know whether things would be different if USA primer producers were privately held companies v. today’s publicly traded. The former might have a greater interest in the small fry customer vs. allegiance to a wider swath and shareholders.
 
It would be interesting to know whether things would be different if USA primer producers were privately held companies v. today’s publicly traded. The former might have a greater interest in the small fry customer vs. allegiance to a wider swath and shareholders.
From an economics standpoint, there is zero relevance. A private company is still driven by the same market conditions. Cost of materials, employees, etc. Zero difference. Prices are set by the market......whether private or public, a company is not in the business of of feelings....it is in the business of making money. There is no such thing as greed, gouging, or profiteering......there is only what the market will bear, and the cost of getting your product to that market.
 
Is $75 a 1,000 the new normal, $140 for BR primers?

Right now it is. Remember during Obama .22 LR was $10/ 50 Rnd. box. Now the price has come down quite a bit. I had the option to buy 2# H4831 and only took one, cause I only needed one. That is the only way prices will come down. I did see on the internet some places are offering free shipping if one buys $600 to a $1,000 of product. Well at $75.00 to $100.00/ primer brick and powder $200 for 8lbs., that's not too much to buy. But I will wait until I need some and maybe the price will come down some more.
 
So, here is a serious question. Everyone is so up in arms about ammo prices, reloading prices, etc. Why not stop reloading/shooting for awhile instead of feeding the price demon? I love to reload and shoot but I simply cant afford to pay these prices so I just don't do it. Every time we get someone new in the Whitehouse prices go up and everyone freaks out. In my almost 35yrs on this earth no one has tried taking our guns, ammo, etc. Just calm down people, move onto another hobby for a bit and things will get better. If you noticed how it went from $30-brick to $40-brick to $50 brick to 60-100-brick its because you guys are paying it because someone on the internet told you that you need to have 50k primers and 300lbs of powder at all times. Yes, its price gouging! Yes, stores are taking advantage of us! But, we are doing it to ourselves. They jacked the price up $10 since January just to see how high they could go before people broke. It's not supply and demand its companies saying hey, Tom paid $60 last week lets see if we can get $80 out of him this week. Quit feeding the demon and it will starve.
 
Coffee prices are closing in on their August 2011 all-time-peak high. Funny thing is, when people complain at me about the price of coffee and I tell them, "Then stop drinking coffee," they get mad and refuse to consider it. Smae thing when people complain about housing, gas and electric. I tell them they don't need a five thousand square foot house, a mud hut will satisfy their basic need for shelter. They don't need a car, either. A bicycle or a pair of walking shoes will get them wherever they need to go. As for electricity, that's a pure luxury. Plenty of places around the world have never seen an electric lamp and those people live just fine. Funny how no one ever gives up their house, car, or just learns to live without electricity. They don't stop complaining about the prices, either tho. Me? I like having a house and electricity, love my trucks and the wife's comfortable sedan. Price of electric gets jacked up or gas goes higher, okay. I'll learn to live with less but I'm not giving any of it up completely. Not complaining, either. When the economy improves and supply chains open up and skilled labor returns to the workplace... THEN prices will go down. Not before. It don't matter how many people stop reloading, now or forever, it just means more ready-to-load ammo gets sold. Unless we all give up our guns and no one but government-supplied gun carriers get to shoot. THEN there won't be any components for sale to the public - not legally.
 
Nope, good thought, but folks have already started “reloading” fired primers. A bit complicated and time consuming but….in a pinch, absolutely doable. Necessity is the mother of all invention.
 
Nope, good thought, but folks have already started “reloading” fired primers. A bit complicated and time consuming but….in a pinch, absolutely doable. Necessity is the mother of all invention.

I have upped my black powder shooting. Have commercially made components, but in a pinch I can make powder, caps and projectiles.
 
So, here is a serious question. Everyone is so up in arms about ammo prices, reloading prices, etc. Why not stop reloading/shooting for awhile instead of feeding the price demon? I love to reload and shoot but I simply cant afford to pay these prices so I just don't do it. Every time we get someone new in the Whitehouse prices go up and everyone freaks out. In my almost 35yrs on this earth no one has tried taking our guns, ammo, etc. Just calm down people, move onto another hobby for a bit and things will get better. If you noticed how it went from $30-brick to $40-brick to $50 brick to 60-100-brick its because you guys are paying it because someone on the internet told you that you need to have 50k primers and 300lbs of powder at all times. Yes, its price gouging! Yes, stores are taking advantage of us! But, we are doing it to ourselves. They jacked the price up $10 since January just to see how high they could go before people broke. It's not supply and demand its companies saying hey, Tom paid $60 last week lets see if we can get $80 out of him this week. Quit feeding the demon and it will starve.

If only everyone had stopped buying gas in 1974.....it would still be .10 a gallon right?
 
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