Priming on Dillon 650 versus Hornady LNL progressive

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Yes, they both prime on the up stroke. The LNL has a sliding feed and the 650 rotates. The 650 has a low primer warning the LNL doesn't.
 
Do they both feed primers through the use of a vertical drop tube? The 650 does I don't know about the L_n_L, althow the old Projecter's did.
 
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I'm not one to pressure anyone, but the Dillon 650 is a wonderful machine, well made, and trouble free and you can't beat Dillon's customer service. :D
 
I have had both machines and for sake of saving an arguement and starting a color war, lets agree that both machines are great. Both have their strong points and both have a large following.

LGB
 
If you have the loot, get the blue. If your more sensible, the LNL make better economic sense. And then they 1000 FREE bullets with the Hornady will quickly push your decision over the edge....

Justin
 
Over the life of a machine I am not sure the LNL is so much of a better deal. Just me...I went blue and have no regrets.
 
The 650 dispenses a new primer even if it is not used, whereas the 1050, 550 and LNL AP only dispenses a new primer if needed.

The relatively close spacing of primers in the 650's disk, in transit between the vertical tube and the priming station, has caused more primer tube detonations than the sliding transfer system of the 1050, 550, or LNL AP that transfer only one primer at a time, all the way from the tube to the priming station.

The sliding transfer systems are also much easier to switch primer sizes than the 650's system.

Andy
 
Over the life of a machine I am not sure the LNL is so much of a better deal. Just me...I went blue and have no regrets.

I paid about $400 for my LNL. How much did you pay for your Dillon? I'm guessing $650 or so. (correct me if I'm wrong) I then got 1,000 free bullets with a value of roughly $200. Hornady has proven themselves to have good customer service, so I don't really consider that to be a factor. How much does it cost you to change calibers on your Dillon? For me depending on how many dies I am using it is $3 per die. 3 die setup is a $9 dollar caliber change, 4 die is $12. I buy my bushings in 10 packs and only use what I need. How much does a toolhead cost. I'm not bashing. I'm sure Dillon is a fantastic machine. You don't get a reputation like they have by accident, but lets compare apples to apples.
 
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Over the life of a machine I am not sure the LNL is so much of a better deal. Just me...I went blue and have no regrets.

Based on what? Did you have a LNL and have problems with it? If you don't have any experience with the LNL, then your opinion that its inferior is based on what? If you do have experience and feel strongly enough to post in the thread, perhaps you could share that experience rather than a single line knocking Hornady without any frame of reference.
 
What is meant by a "tool head" with respect to the Dillon?

Dillon uses an interchangeable tool head on their presses. It is the part of the press that the dies screw into. The 550 is a 4 place head and the 650 is a 5 place head. You set your dies into the head, and when you want to load another caliber you take the whole assembly out and put in another one, which you have to buy. The Hornady uses individual bushings. You need one per die. Screw the die into the bushing, when you want to change calibers, take out the whole assembly so you don't have to readjust.

Dillon toolhead:http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/content/p/9/pid/23807/catid/3/XL_650_Toolhead

Hornady bushing:http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=786036
 
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How does the Dillon 650 prime? Is it a similar set up
Has anybody explained how the Dillon priming is set up yet, besides using a drop tube like the LNL?
 
LOL...I said nothing about inferior in my post.

I researched the Dillon and LNL and quite frankly I liked the LNL a lot but after trying red, blue, and green I really liked the engineering of the Dillon press and decided to spend the money to get it.
 
I went blue and never looked back, although I bought the 550b instead of the 650 I'm still impressed with the blue machines.
 
It never ceases to amaze me when people who have only loaded on one brand of press make statement like, "My passionate purple press is the greatest thing since sliced cumquat and persimmon bread."

How the bleepity bleep can a person know which press is better if they have not loaded thousands of rounds on each press and done dozens of caliber changes??????
 
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