Principal Does Not Like My Desktop Wallpaper

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I ran into the same thing at work. (Construction business) My comp had my .44 Magnum as my desktop. Some guy complained and and in the process I found out who it was. I never confronted him about it though, I just changed the desktop (at my bosses instruction) to a bouquet of daffodils.
A few weeks later the same guy walks over to my station to shoot the beeze and comments as to why I have daffodils as a desktop. I knew he was fishing to see my reaction, but he didn`t know that I knew it was him that complained. My response?

"Well", I said..."somebody complained about my gun, so I figured I`d replace it with something more in line with his manhood"

His smile disappeared...then he walked away.

Rick65Cat :barf:
 
Well, okay, I should've said "crown", since I don't pay that much attention to royalty...:D

Anyway, after WWI, they more or less gave those firearms up, then when WWII broke out they had to do it all over again. We should've charged them rent. Some of those firearms never made it back...
 
I can't believe how quickly you gentlemen cower. Since when are your "Rights" only valid where some pompus puss tells you they are? I don't think I would change the wallpaper, unless it was for another gun. I work at the USAFA and display guns all the time. Nothing is said to me. don't cower to anyone. This is what scares me about todays society, we so easily give up our rights. :banghead:
 
Since when are your "Rights" only valid where some pompus puss tells you they are? I don't think I would change the wallpaper, unless it was for another gun.

Well, if your willing to lose a job over a picture of a gun, more power to you. How is the principal telling him to take down a picture taking away his rights? We have the right to buy porn, but I hardly think that anyone would be so up in arms if he had said that he had a centerfold up. The fact is, within schools rights are removed with great frequency. I am a teacher, and did you know that I can search a kids backpack pretty much at will? Sure, I need to have "reasonable suspicion" to do so, but cooking up a reasonable suspicion is about as hard as breathing. Unless it is within the context of a teaching opportunity, there are tons of pictures we can't put up, Jesus being first on the list. I think the thing everyone is overlooking is that the principal said the picture was in bad taste, and that is his right as the administrator of that school to determine what is bad taste and what isn't. Further, he isn't telling him he can't own a gun, buy a gun, or shoot a gun. He is simply saying that a picture of a gun on his computer is inappropriate, and again, he is perfectly within his rights to do so.

Let me ask you this: If I had made a post saying that I had gotten in trouble because I walked into the school and taught a class wearing an Iron Maiden T-shirt, a baseball cap and jeans, how many of you would have responded with anywhere near the vigor that you responded to this? My guess is very, very few. But why wouldn't you? Those clothes do not affect my abilities as a teacher. By the same token, how many of you would care if I walked into a gun store wearing the same things? My guess? Hardly any of you. My point here is that it is a matter of situation and perspective. None of those things that I was wearing are the least bit odd or inappropriate within the boundaries of normal society, but all, with the possible exception of jeans, are completely inappropriate school attire for not only me, but the students as well.
 
Inappropriate until you get to a liberal arts college, anyway. Thats why I mentioned "pick your battles" earlier. No use beating your head against a brick wall. Better to let them think they've won and await a better opportunity to square things. That iGun come in green?
 
The computer belongs to the school district and, strictly speaking, is for district purposes. It is a courtesy if they allow any personal use of the machine at all, as they are not obligated to do so. If the principal directs him to remove all personal material and set the desktop display to default Windows, then he has no other choice but to do so or find another job. If he makes a stink about this, his union probably won't back him because the district isn't doing anything wrong.
 
Today my principal came in to observe my classroom. On his written evaluation he stated that my desktop wallpaper was a safety violation.

My wallpaper was a picture of an SKS.

You are lucky you get to change your wallpaper, some big companies I worked for would not let you change the damn Wallpaper that comes with the computer. The Company owns the computer, so it's the company's say on what you can or cannot do on it. You can't paint a company car your favorite color right.

Stop crying and welcome to the real world. I love guns, and my biggest hobby is shooting pistols, but WORK IS WORK, AND PLAY IS PLAY. Most companies frown upon things that can get them sued. Sex & Violence are two big ones. You could of had Wallpaper with a K-bar, a ninja sword, a *****, or a pinup girl and still would have gotten the same response from the principal. Maybe less time daydreaming about your SKS and more time teaching or doing whatever you do, is at order.

Sorry, I'm venting... I just had to fire an employee the other day. He did nothing but play on the internet ALL DAY, and did 0% work. Don't get me wrong I should be working while I'm posting this too, but I still get my job done. I usually let people screw around on the net when thing are slow, but to come in and do no work and surf ALL DAY while collecting a check, is crazy. The straw that broke the camels back was when we decided to transfer him to a non-sitting in front of a computer all day job (same pay mind you)
he threatened to KILL the other employee who was going to take over his old position. Now he is fired and he can sit at home and play on the net all damn day.

Do you really love your less that $300, Communist Bloc rifle so much you rather be unemployed?
 
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Stop crying and welcome to the real world. I love guns, and my biggest hobby is shooting pistols, but WORK IS WORK, AND PLAY IS PLAY. Most companies frown upon things that can get them sued. Sex & Violence are two big ones. You could of had Wallpaper with a K-bar, a ninja sword, a *****, or a pinup girl and still would have gotten the same response from the principal. Maybe less time daydreaming about your SKS and more time teaching or doing whatever you do, is at order.

I simply posted an event that happened to me that was gun related. I am not "crying" or complaining. Most of the teachers on my campus have personalized the computer on their desk.

The comment about spending more time teaching is also uncalled for. You know NOTHING about me. I spend an average of 60 hours a week doing my job. I don't have much time for daydreaming.:fire:
 
Porn does directly represent sex, but guns do not directly represent violence.

Untrue. I hardly think that Oleg is pornographer, yet his nudes, I am certain, would be considered porn by many, many people. Is he directly representing sex? To play devils advocate a little bit, how does a military battle rifle not directly represent violence? Its meant to be used in battle, which I am sure you would agree is violent.
 
My photos range a pretty wide gamut. What's visible on my site is a small sub-set of what I do. What's amusing is the range of reactions by different people to the same photos.

I recall seeing photos of pistols that somebody posted on PhotoSIG. Americans liked the photos, Europeans did not. The guy also had portraits of his teenage daughter, sitting around in jeans and tshirts. European viewers generally liked them, but bunch of Americans screamed at him for posting "child porn". My guess is that some of the protestors are the true sickos who can't deal with representations of either reality of fantasy and who always see something nasty in inkblot tests.
 
Doc,

Thats your opinion, and thats fine, it's perfectly valid. However, you and I both know that for a large number of people in this country, seeing a nipple consitutes porn regardless of context or artistic intent. Example? I had a letter published in the last issue of American Handgunner in response to a lady who wrote the magazine saying that a cartoon caricature of John Connors wife was essentially awful and not at all family friendly. Read my letter. My name is Tim Marquart and I am from Greeley, CO. You should be able to find it on the web if you don't happen to have the issue, and if you want to see what the lady wrote, her name is Linid Towne, you should be able to find her letter on the web too. If you do, I think you will be shocked at how prudish she is. While the bulk of America probably isn't as prudish, there are certainly a few just like her, and there are lots that feel similarly, though obviously not with the passion that she feels.

The point that I was trying to make is that it is a picture, and not the real thing, and is thus not some sort of trampling of 2A rights. Whether you judge Olegs work to be porn or simply risque, they would not under any circumstances be appropriate wallpaper on a school computer. However, that doesn't mean that the school is taking away his right to take, publish, distribute, advertise or whatever else he wants to do with his picture. I see the picture of the SKS the same way. After all, it's just a picture, and as someone else mentioned, there are companies that go so far as to not even allow their workers to change the wallpaper from factory setting.

Lest you think I am uninformed on the subject, I am a high school history teacher. I am also pro-2A. Living and working in Colorado, Columbine comes up frequently, if not with the kids, then at least institutionally. Our school has had two kids expelled in the last two years for bringing weapons to school. One had a sword, one had a craptacular little .25. I was not at the school for either event, but I know about the incidents, obviously. If you think for a second that a picture of an SKS would be allowed by our principal, our district, our school board or most of the parents, your nuts. It's not, as someone else said, "arbitrary". It's a reaction by schools to a problem that they have no idea how to handle. Frankly, its probably one of the only things that this principal can react to. I don't know how big Taos' school is, but mine has about 1200 students. We have a "large' security staff of 6. That means, that at any given time, there are 200 kids that one person has the responsiblity to monitor. That, my friend, is impossible. The security knows it, the teachers know it, the principal knows it, and the kids sure as hell know it. As gunnies, we know that fear is responsible for a lot of bad decisions, and I would go so far as to say that philosophically I think that banning this SKS picture is one of them. Realistically? Good luck trying to convince anyone in the school district that it's harmless.
 
Also, I want to make it perfectly clear that I am not judging Olegs work to be pornograhy in any way. I was using his work as an example, in large part because I do think it is tasteful, and because it is crystal clear to me that he is not shooting the ladies with an eye towards submitting them to Beaver Hunt. I stand by my opinion that there are plenty of people who wouldn't be able to see the difference, and I will flatly say that those people are wrong to think that.
 
guns can represent violence

First off, that principal is nuts. 2nd I got a new job when I was harassed for talking about hunting on my lunch break with a fellow hunter/worker. My new boss has a .50 bmg rifle and goes hunting, my supervisor has a 12ga. Our secretary's s.o. has several nice firearms.

An SKS is a battle rifle, I love mine, it sleeps under my bed (unless it's shooting bunnies:evil: ). A battle rifle is a symbol of battle.

To help people understand what I mean I'll borrow from a previous post. A ***** represents sex. It's a tool shaped as anatomy that is used for certain adult activities:eek:
An SKS is a tool that is also used for certain adult activities, war:what:

Lets look at a "*****"

It is not sex, but it's original purpose was to be used for sex.

no we talk of the SKS

It is not violence, but it's original purpose was to be used for violence.


So a gun is a representation, but the principal is a big TOOL:neener:

If my boss said no gun pictures/talk during work I'd comply. On breaks with fellow gunnies I'll talk cause it's NOHDB:fire:

Will your students benefit more from you worrying about your beautiful SKS picture:D or would they benefit more from a level-headed freedom loving American teacher?
 
you and I both know that for a large number of people in this country, seeing a nipple consitutes porn regardless of context or artistic intent.
And the assumption of such people (or most people, depending on the definition of porn) is that what damage pornography causes to the viewer is caused simply by having been seen by the viewer. That is, pornography in the form of a picture still causes harm. A gun, even if it were capable of causing harm all by itself, is not capable of doing so in the form of a picture.

The point that I was trying to make is that it is a picture, and not the real thing, and is thus not some sort of trampling of 2A rights.
I agree, but I think there's a strong case that it's a violation of First Amendment rights.

If you think for a second that a picture of an SKS would be allowed by our principal, our district, our school board or most of the parents, your nuts.
The issue of whether or not your school would allow it is irrelevant to the discussion of whether or not any school should allow it.
 
Amen

SuperiorMarksman 18 said:
All they wanna do is eliminate the gun culture in America, plain and simple. My dad calls it the "pussification" of America.

Ain't that the truth!
 
Here's MY desktop

And I work in the HQ of a teacher's union. The other guys, though, not the NEA.

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Or, there's always

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