PROBLEM w/ SIG 556 Classic Stock

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After patiently waiting for years for SIG to debug the 556 and finally get it into the proper configuration, I decided to purchase a 556 Classic. The mechanical components of this specimen appeared to be very high quality and fit and finish were impeccable, except for one important area, the retractable & folding stock. I have seen references to the problem which I am about to describe, but never any photos or proof. It is my hopes that this thread can shed some light of truth on this matter.

On my rifle, after the stock was folded , it took a lot of effort to get it to lock in place. When opening up the stock, the little tab on the forend would not let go of the clasp in the stock, ripping this clasp clean through the stock! As someone who would not own a bastardized AR15-SIG hybrid, this is a big issue. I was completely let down by SIG's lack of quality in this area, so I made a phone call to customer service.

When I explained the problem, the customer service rep responded with "Hmm. I'll send you an RMA and a shipping label for repairs." I then brought up the issue of Swiss stocks versus the "SIG Sauer" marked stock that came on my rifle. I was told that the first Classics went out with Swiss stocks, but then supplies ran out and there was a holdup on the stocks coming from Switzerland, so they swicthed to "another vendor" which a lot of folks suspect is iTac. I asked if there was any possibility of me getting a real Swiss stock and I was told that there was no way to be sure. So the next day I went back to the dealer to get this thing boxed up and shipped off to Exeter.

My dealer had some curious customers in the shop, so I decided to show them the issue I was having. While doing so, I checked the weapon to make sure it was clear, and the bolt slammed home, even though I had positively engaged the bolt release. I made a strange face and repeated the procedure. The bolt dropped home once again and this time one of the guys noticed it. "Yeah, I saw it too! It dropped the bolt twice in a row!" In my book, I consider this an unsafe condition, and immediately both my opinion and desire of the 556 Classic quickly waned.

I was upset that SIG would finally make the right choice on how to offer the rifle, but completely screw up the execution. I can live with a little ratlle in the handguards and even a little play in the stock, but a $1600 rifle that rips the locking mechanism right out of the stock and also drops the bolt on its own accord is completely unacceptable. To be fair, SIG offered to fix this rifle, but I had made up my mind that I was never going to be content with the poor design of the stock's locking mechanism. SIG dropped the ball two years ago when this rifle came out, and here they are dropping the ball yet again. It is obvious that the new stock found on the current SIG Classics is not of Swiss manufacture, nor is it the level of quality you'd expect from a rifle at this price point. Luckily, my dealer had another rifle in stock that had drawn my attention, a 4th Gen. MSAR STG556 in black. One month later, I am very happy with the MSAR, and extremely let down with SIG Sauer. I have been craving a 550 style rifle for the longest time. I waited patiently while they debugged and released various configurations. When it looked like they finally got it right, it turned out that one of the all important features was a piece of garbage.

I wrote off SIG pistols back in 2004 when QC and customer service were in the dumpster. I have since purchased older, pre '04 SIGs and had great success. On the other hand, this latest move by SIG to go cheap on the stock of a $1600 rifle is the straw that breaks this camel's back.

Here are the videos showing the problem with the 556 Classic Stock. Pick and choose your format and please be patient for the download:

Windows Media Player 19MB

Quicktime MPEG4 23MB

Let down once again,

B9 :mad:
 
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Focus my friend....focus... :)

"Luckily, my dealer had another rifle in stock that had drawn my attention, a 4th Gen. MSAR STG556 in black. One month later, I am very happy with the MSAR, and extremely let down with SIG Sauer."
 
"Oh no! Let's run for the hills! B9's camera showed the wrong day when he filmed this and he vocalized it. Wait a minute, what is this about again??"

:rolleyes:
 
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It appears to me that Sig has corrected this issue. All of the Classics we have received recently have the handguards with the locking nub molded into the handguard, so the only way it is coming out is if it breaks off. I also checked one of the older handguards we had in stock and it also appears to be integral as well as the new shipment of handguards we just received. The new handguards we received have the six vent holes (per side) on top, where the old style has three. Interestingly, the latest shipment of Classic rifles all seem to have the old style three hole handguards, but still have the integral locking nub. I can only assume there was a design change somewhere in the middle of the Classic production run, but they have now fixed it.

This is my own observation and not from information from Sig. So please don't call Sig and say "Top Gun Supply said...". I get in enough trouble all on my own.
 
For what it's worth, the rifle from the video had the handguards with the integrated stub as well. The stub itself didn't present a problem, other than the fact that it fit too tight into the clasp. It's the clasp itself that got ripped clean through the stock:

YouTube version of the same video
 
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I have never had the bolt close accidentally on my so far, and the tab did pull out of the handle when I first got it. I figured they probably made it to hold very securely and that it just needed broke in a little and I was right. I am guessing they do this so it is easy and inexpensive to replace in time as it wears on the plastic. After you use it a few times and get it broke in my stock retaining clip has not pulled out again, and holds the stock extremely well. Give the weapon a chance, I love mine great price for a great weapon.
 
I had the same problem. I called customer service and I told them I demanded the stock be poured from molds high in the Swiss Alps. I also demanded that the handguards be crafted in the alcoves of the tropical ridges in the Tahitian provincial hills (I also said that the guys who deliver the guards from the island should be buff and do it by boat, not plane). I demanded that my barrel be borne of steel melded from the same compound of Thor's hammer "Mjolnir" and that I would not be satisfied unless my front sight post were made of pure adamantium drawn from Wolverine's bones.
 
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