Problem with pulling down process

[cpy911]

Hi,
I purchased a bunch of ammunition components from a kid that were reloads. I am pulling them all down and reloading with my powder. These are .357 Magnum rounds. In about 10% of them, when using the kinetic puller, the lead core separated from the jacket. I am now unable to pull these down as the jacket does not have enough mass to push out of the case no matter how hard I hammer. Any ideas on how to do it?



Thanks!

 

[geist262]

I would try a bullet puller like RCBS has where it's like a die. You put it up in the die and lock a collet on it and use the press to pull it. I don't like those kinetic pullers. AFAIK, the collet style puller does no damage that I have seen.


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[FROGO207]

I have a Hornaday Cam Lock bullet puller. It will not pull bullets with little or no flat surface to grip from. To remove the jacket material I would use a pair of long nose/needle nose pliers and while gripping the jacket as close to the brass as possible twist the handles around a turn or so to collapse the jacket and pull the jacket out. This will ruin the jacket but the bullet is already ruined IMHO. I find the best way to pull all pistol bullets is with the hammer style puller. This happens sometimes.

 

[matworz]

Needle nose pliers to pull the jackets out? How many are you taking about here?

 

[FROGO207]

One pair if pliers. Grab the jacket from above and twist. The metal will roll up (around the pliers ends inside the brass) like a sardine can top and you can remove the collapsed bullet jacket. Don't know how to explain it any better.

 

[kingmt]

Load in the cylinder & pull the trigger.

 

[Cleftwynd]

Once the lead has been removed, it should be safe to just fire them off, not enough projectile weight to cause pressure issues, so I agree with the above.

 

[beatledog7]

Put the case in a shellholder in your press, but no die. Raise the ram. Reach through the die socket with needle nose pliers, and grab the remaining jacket. Lower the ram, letting the plier body contact the press body. Hold on tight, and lower the ram.

 

[Mobuck]

Must be some pretty low grade bullets for that to happen unless he Loktited them in.
I'd go with the needle nosed pliers so you can salvage the powder and primer.

 

[kingmt]

They are swaged bullets. Soft lead flows easy so it is expected.

 

[highlander 5]

That bullet looks like some Remington factory bullets that I have but mine are 44 cal HPs.

 

[gamestalker]

Wow, a bullet of that poor integrity would concern me anyway. Imagine if during firing that the core were to jump free of the jacket prior to going into battery, and didn't lock the cylinder up, then being fired. You could end up with all kinds jacket and core fragments flying every where, or worse?

I would continue pulling them any which way you can, and then go with your plan to reload with your components.
GS

 

[kingmt]

You really think they will cause a problem with a revolver going into battery?

 

[cpy911]

I have tried pulling these using my press. I AM DONE WITH THESE. I don't like playing with little bombs. How do I properly dispose of them????

 

[rsrocket1]

I had to pull about 10-15 Hornady #3005 100g short jacket bullets and had the same problem with 3-4 of them. Not a quality issue, just the nature of the bullet. I was able to reassemble all but one of the bullets that separated and they all shot fine.

 

[FROGO207]

Post them in the reloading for sale section. There will be somebody there that will be willing to take the time to use them. Just do not try to ship them USPS. They have to go UPS/FedX with an ORM-D sticker. Or local FTF.

 

[bfoosh006]

Those cases and bullets are experiencing a form of "cold welding", I had some .44 Mag nickel cases ( Winc. or Rem brand new) and Hornady 300gr XTPs do the same thing years ago. No matter how hard I pounded the kinetic puller, the jacket wouldn't budge. The lead started to extrude out .... but no jacket. I ended up firing my reloads with no ill effects.

Good luck pulling those jackets. You might have to try seating them a little more ( hoping you break the "weld" ) then try the kinetic puller.

http://www.google.com/search?q=cold+welding+in+reloaded+ammo.&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=&oe=

 

[mdi]

I, too, would just grab the jackets with a pair of pliers and yank them out. Putting them in one of my guns and shooting them would be the last thing I would do. No need to be frightened of them, they are no worse than loaded ammo. Try putting one in your press without a die in place, run the case up passed the top of the press, grab with pliers, lower ram to pull jacket from case...

 

[geist262]

Those cases and bullets are experiencing a form of "cold welding", I had some .44 Mag nickel cases ( Winc. or Rem brand new) and Hornady 300gr XTPs do the same thing years ago. No matter how hard I pounded the kinetic puller, the jacket wouldn't budge. The lead started to extrude out .... but no jacket. I ended up firing my reloads with no ill effects.

Good luck pulling those jackets. You might have to try seating them a little more ( hoping you break the "weld" ) then try the kinetic puller.

http://www.google.com/search?q=cold...e7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=&oe=

That's. good idea about seating it a little. I would put one in the holder and raise it to the highest point. While doing that, bring the seater plug to touch the round. Back it down and maybe give it a 1/8 to a 1/4 turn. Then try one of the pullers.


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[James2]

Here is one way to pull bullets.



You can also get a collet puller that is not so likely to damage the bullet.



Pulling bullets with the press is so much better than a hammer whack a molie puller.

I would not toss them. That brass and primer is worth a bunch.

 

[rodregier]

The Remington semi-jacketed hollow points have relatively fragile construction to facilitate expansion. For normal usage they would work just fine (fired from the cartridge case), but that would make them a bear to pull down.