Problems with hornady critical defense 9mm?

[Country_boy_88]

I bought a box of Hornady Critcal Defense 115gr ftx 9mm luger this past weekend and when i tried cycling them in my taurus 709 9mm they would hang up every round. Tried the other half of the box in my FNP-9 and had the same issues. In the FN i was able to get a few to go in but it seemed like it still would hang up for a split second. Switched back to the gold dots and had zero problems.
Both pistols were bought brand new last week and this was after putting 100 rounds of range ammo through each of them.

What do i do guys? Take it back to the gun shop and ask for a refund

 

[okespe04]

They cycle fine in my ruger lcp and my glock 19 but I can see how the funny shaped slugs could cause issues. Find a good defense round that cycles in your guns. Its probably not defective ammo, it just does not work well in your guns.

 

[kdstrick]

Is the overall length of the Hornady CD longer than other 9mm rounds?

 

[Country_boy_88]

the length of the case is identical. the gold dots gradually curve in. the hornadys straight straight for maybe a 1/16th of an inch then do this / \

 

[TheBandit]

They feed fine in my PT92

 

[donato]

OP, what do you mean by couldn't cycle the rounds? Are you talking about loading the first round by releasing the slide or would each round not go into battery during a firing cycle?

 

[hardluk1]

I have a witness and a pf-9 that they cycle 100% in ,no problems . If you have problems try soemthing else. Maybe trade with a friend thats look'n for something different to try. Just besure the problem is not with what you are doing in both chambering the first round and how you hold and shot your pistols. Let someone else try your pistols to see if things improve or stay the same.

 

[Shipwreck]

There is another thread on this site, and one at AR15.com.

Apparently, there are multiple reports of some of this ammo not going off. Some multiple rounds in the same box.

I just bought a box of 9mm CD rounds too - as I wanted to try something besides the 147 gr JHP I had been using in my little PM9.

Now, I won't even bother to carry these rounds (I was going to try a few in the gun to make sure they fed right). Feeding problems isn't my main concern at this point - its the misfire issue. Even if I shoot all but 6 or 7 rounds of the box, and then save those for my carry mag... I'll still have doubts after AR15.com reports of the multiple misfires.

I'm stuck with it no, but I wish I could return it to the store.

I'll likely just throw it into the back of the safe with my emergency stash.

 

[donato]

Hey ship,

This thread is about a cycling problem.

You're still hung up on failure-to-fire (FTF). You want to believe every post on every forum about Hornady CD FTFs, but you won't go to the range and shoot the CD (that you have purchased) to see for yourself if there is a problem. That makes no sense.

 

[Shipwreck]

I realize that, but its still a discussion about the round. I'm personally less worried about a cycling problem.

But, I didn't drop $24 to go shoot 25 rounds of JHP at the range. I planned to shoot part of it to see how the point of aim was compared to my sites. And if it worked out ok, I was going to keep enough for 1 mag's worth.

With the FTF issue (and possibly the cycling problem) - I just assume throw it in the safe incase I need ammo in an emeergency. Yea, it might not work then either. But, it's there for a rainy day for now.

 

[atomd]

I bought a box of Hornady Critcal Defense 115gr ftx 9mm luger this past weekend and when i tried cycling them in my taurus 709 9mm they would hang up every round. Tried the other half of the box in my FNP-9 and had the same issues. In the FN i was able to get a few to go in but it seemed like it still would hang up for a split second. Switched back to the gold dots and had zero problems.

Are you firing them in the pistol or hand cycling it? If you're hand cycling it, try firing them to really see how they feed.

But, I didn't drop $24 to go shoot 25 rounds of JHP at the range. I planned to shoot part of it to see how the point of aim was compared to my sites. And if it worked out ok, I was going to keep enough for 1 mag's worth.

How are you going to know how well it really works if you've only shot one mag's worth of ammo of it? True you could see if it shot poa for you but that's about it. Personally I'd want to shoot a bit more of a self defense round to prove that it's reliable in a particular gun before staking my butt on it. Some of my pistols have made it through a full mag (trouble free) of ammo that ended up being totally unreliable in the end.

 

[Country_boy_88]

sorry to clarify im hand cycling the gun. Pulling slide back all the way and releasing. Sometimes it doesnt seat properly and jams then*click* it seats itself. other times it stays jammed.

Was able to get ahold of someone at hornady and im going to email him the lot # tomorrow.

Im not going to attempt to shoot a round that will not properly seat itself fwiw.

 

[hardluk1]

If you gun don't like them then shoot something else. Not all guns like the same ammo. There were some witness pistols in 40cal that has issues with a one of ammo, not hornady, and turned out they needed the extractors removed and smoothed/filed to deber them. Then they worked. I have shot 200 rounds in a pf-9 with no problems and 193 in the witness and both are a 100%. Even run by hand in slow motion as well to check feed. Maybe clean your chambers, take a bit of bore polish and polish your ramp chamber and check and clean your extractors and see one more time OR change brands. If you were close to asheville i would buy your CD's no problem. Mine are lot #3090861 if that helps.
Something else to check ,after you load your magazine besure you slap the mag in your hand to seat the ammo to the rear . The CD ammo is shorter than some loaded ammo out there.
shipwreck If you have not shoot atleast 200rounds you don't know if your pistol might work when needed. Yes it cost a bit more than pratice ammo but it will give you a one time chance to see if it works for 200 rounds. Most pistols will find something they don't like to feed ,bet your butt on it.

 

[420Stainless]

I had similar problems with some bullet profiles in the past when chambering the first round by pulling back and releasing the slide. They all fed fine when I let go with the slide stop. Not sure why the difference, but there certainly was one.

 

[Shipwreck]

ow are you going to know how well it really works if you've only shot one mag's worth of ammo of it? True you could see if it shot poa for you but that's about it. Personally I'd want to shoot a bit more of a self defense round to prove that it's reliable in a particular gun before staking my butt on it. Some of my pistols have made it through a full mag (trouble free) of ammo that ended up being totally unreliable in the end.

I have carried a guns ince 1996.

I make sure a gun works 100% with FMJ - somewhere around 400-500 rounds minimum.

I then feed some JHP to make sure they work, and then to check POI/POA.

I am not one who feeds 200 JHP thru a gun before I consider it reliable.

I throw old mags of JHP thru the gun as I change out ammo - But generally - if the gun shoots FMJ 100%, and a mag or two of JHP - I'm satisfied.

The only gun I might be more particular about would be a 1911 and JHP. On combat guns, I've never had an issue. I generally use the same couple of rounds (brands) in all my guns too.

 

[sokygunner]

My problem is that it is loaded weak, won't pass the FBI tests which are the standard for self defense ammo. If you want the effect of having the polymer in the end then go get a corbon powerball round, it actually has a charge of powder behind it that will do something. Yeah, yeah, I know a critical defense round will hurt, a lot, and no I don't want to be shot with one, and yes it will kill a person, but other rounds like the power ball will do better. And yes, I have shot some of it before so my opinion, which is mine only and you are welcome to form your own, is actually based on first hand knowledge not gun magazine BS.

 

[Country_boy_88]

update. ammo is cycling fine now that ive loaded it between the two guns atleast 3 times each round. both pistols are brand new so either the feed ramps need some polishing up or the rough edges on the hornadys were hanging it up. thanks for the advice guys

 

[rhinoh]

Just be sure all the hand cycling hasn't shoved the bullet back in the case some....