Professor calls cops on student

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That topic choice, a paper expounding upon whether all gun owners are cowards...there must be at least one other assignment topic to be had, one that doesn’t get your goat.
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Whoa...I say whoa, woad yurt!


Go back and re-read cambeul41's post. That topic wasn't one assigned, rather it was something the student chose contrary to the instructions.
 
Oh poop. I was on a roll. I'll edit! Sorry, peeps.

rainbowbob:
Thank you for the heads up. I owe you one.

I was kind of sad to see it go, though. That was some great stuff there. Too bad it was all in response to something that hadn't been said. Holy crap.
 
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The student needs to sue the idiot Professor, the college, and possibly the police for violating his First Amendment rights. Later talk about the 2nd Amendment rights but for the lawsuit keep it VERY focused on the 1st amendment rights. Sadly money is the only way to get these foolish institutions attention and take you (and all your civil rights) seriously. Racial discrimination and gays and lesbians had to sue, it seems it's the turn for 2nd amendment rights as well. Getting the Media involved and some civil rights organizations might be a good idea too.

This does really suck and is ridiculous that this is necessary to keep ones 1st amendment rights, but one step at a time gets the journey done. Get walking on the right path.
 
Rainbowbob

I AM suggesting you should not penalize your students for having positions that differ from yours
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Agreed. Rather than go through your post line by line, I will simply plead "Not Guilty." Thank you for post 124.

I suspect that you, woad_yurt, and I are in fundamental agreement on most points.
 
contact was made today by a Hartford area TV station to Mr. Wahlberg and Ms. Adler for interviews. both he and club president Ms. Adler expressed a desire to focus on the schools treatment of students second and first amendment rights. the reporter wished to focus on Wahlbergs story. there will be no interview.
on another note: interest in Ms. Adler's quote is raising and the Marksmanship and Riflery Club is exploring the marketing of silk screened t-shirts to raise funds for the club. this is to finance a trip to the NRA museum in Virginia in the fall.
 
Woads_Yurt "What follows is for those that are shouting "sue!"

In order to sue successfully, one has to prove that they were damaged. They must suffer an injury to their body, their property, their wallet, their career, etc."

Not one of the sue crazy here, but you don't have to "win" to have a successful lawsuit if your only goal is to create awareness.
 
In order to sue successfully, one has to prove that they were damaged. They must suffer an injury to their body, their property, their wallet, their career, etc.
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Depends on your desired outcome, if the goal is a multi-million dollar settlement - no case. If the goal is to have court transcripts of the prof defending her actions... As my dear cousin is fond of saying- it costs less than a hundred dollars to file a civil suit. It costs thousands to defend yourself from one.
 
yeah but if it actually goes to trial and you lose, you pay the other guys legal fees... I know what my lawyer bills out per hour, a month of her working is more then average house hold income in the US.
 
I can't beleive how un-secure some people feel just hearing people own guns. Imagine if every gun owner had some sort of Identifying mark? Anti gunners would go absolutely bonkers.
 
>In order to sue successfully, one has to prove that they were damaged. They must suffer an injury to their body, their property, their wallet, their career, etc.<

Ahhh... but you have the Prof's own words to use against her...

Her complaint to the police hinged on students feeling "uncomfortable". And that was exactly the reason Mr Wahlberg gave for missing a few classes: that her actions made him "feel uncomfortable". I'd sue for reimbursement of lost tuition fees from the missed classes. The university either has to hand over the cash, or admit that the prof was out of line... ;)
 
Yes. He was questioned by the police for a stance he took during his presentation. IANAL, but how is that not a violation of 1A?

was he arrested? detained? did he get a call and drive down to talk to them voluntarily?

after the va tech shooting there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth about how the teachers and students who knew cho was disturbed "shoulda done more". Not knowing the student or how he presented i can't say that the teacher and the cops were outa line to check him out. i know there was one teacher at va tech that was judged and convicted on the net for not having done more about cho.
 
I'm still laughing at the idea some here insist on that the dim student somehow was deprived of his First and Second Amendment rights by the nutty professor. If you start telling me in my own home that my .45 has inadequate stopping power, and that .44 Magnum is the only ticket, and I throw you out of my house, have I deprived you of your First and Second Amendment rights, too?
 
I feel that people being made uncomfortable around those with legal guns is the real issue and it needs to be addressed. THEY too can get a gun if they are uncomfortable.

In fact, I think education from Kindergarden all the way up through Highschool is some kind of Alice the No-Gun, No Amendment Wonderland where all is milk and honey and no dis-comfort.

No wonder Marine Boot is Life-Changing.

The children are not growing up the way they ought to.
 
^---------- ua, its kinda hard for many of today's youth to transition from helicopter parents to helicopter gunship
 
Not knowing the student or how he presented i can't say that the teacher and the cops were outa line to check him out.
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I'll bet you know the media well enough to know that if he said anything in the least bit threatening, or which advocated unlawful violence, that the media would have been running that 24/7. That they HAVEN'T been, is pretty solid evidence that he did nothing more than present an argument as a class assignment.

This was nothing more than an attempt to intimidate someone from having an opinion different from that of the instructor.

He should have lawyered up from the git.

Legal aspects aside, this is fundamentally a political fight and he needs to fight it like one. He needs to drag the instructor's name through the 1st Amendment mud for everything he's worth. He needs to portray her as an anti-intellectual bully, which is exactly what she is. Enough of that and she becomes a liability to the institution.
 
DoD, you seem to be trying desperately to portray this as something it's not...

This was not a case of the student being in the professor's home, or office, or some exclusive club. He was in a classroom, which he had paid good money to be in, and was allowed to be in.

The student was asked to present an opinion piece, which he did. The professor disagreed with his opinion (which is fine), and used force (the police) to express her disagreement (which is NOT fine, except in the Aerosmith definition).

To use your analogy, it would be you drawing a weapon on me in your home, after inviting me over, because you disagreed with an opinion I expressed. Somehow, I doubt that would be your course of action...
 
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