Progressive presses kinda spoiled reloading for me

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I haven't posted on this thread in a loooooong time, and the reason is that I haven't pulled the handle in two years.

I used to load quite frequently on my first press, with was a LCT. Calibers included .30-30, 7.62x39, 7mm-08, .223 Rem, .45 acp, 9mm Luger, .38 & .357 mag. I have the press set up with a separate turret for each cal. and change over's were very quick and easy. When I had some spare time to kill in the shop, I'd bang out a box of 50 here and there, taking my time and enjoying the process.

I was even casting for a few calibers, just for the fun of it.

Then I decided that I wanted to shoot IDPA and would need to up my reloading game. So I set up with a Load Master for .45 acp and 9mm and was soon banging out batches of 500. The Load Master is a tinkerer's press, but I'm a big time tinkerer and had no problems making it sing. But my competitive shooting dreams fell through (multiple reasons) and I've been sitting on a substantial stash of each caliber ever since. I also managed to make my first substantial "mistakes" in that I loaded loaded several hundred rounds of an unproven cast bullet load that turned out to be too hot and leaded my barrels.

Then I wound up babysitting my brothers Dillon 550 for 9 months while he was in a life transition and went ahead and loaded up a healthy stash of .223 Rem to feed the ARs.

So what's the problem? The progressive presses, and the high volume reloading mindset.... which is more of an exercise in logistics management... produced more ammo that I could shoot in several years, and I lost the relaxation and fun hobby that I used to really enjoy.

Now granted, family life has been very busy with three teenagers in the house now, work responsibilities have increased, and I was laid up for a while do to health problems, so the progressive press is not some kind of agent of evil. But for me personally, I wish I had used that money to buy a gun in a yet a different caliber and stuck to pulling the handle four times per round on the LCT.

YMMV, but my advise to anyone thinking of upgrading to a progressive press would be to think through what your really enjoy about reloading and how much you are actually going to shoot.
 
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I hear what you are saying, but I am not that way. I reload to get ready to go shooting. It is not a hobby in and of itself, I want it to be fast and simple. I have a continuing program of boiling down my loads so I don't have to change progressive settings.
Frex, when my stock of .45 SWCs is used up, it will be roundnose all the way. Probably three different velocities but done in long runs to minimize measure adjustments. I just loaded a batch of 9mm hollowpoints for defensive weapon practice. May be the last, my hideout guns will shoot IDPA subsonics and if I want some bang and flash, I can buy a couple of boxes of econoball. I have a good stock of .38 wadcutter ammo, loading will be roundnose for speedloaders.
 
Interesting,,, I appreciate and enjoy my LNL AP. It's 'fast enough' that I can get a decent amount set aside before I change calibers.
Easy enough to keep ahead without getting too far ahead,,,
 
I actually enjoy the time spend reloading on my Dillon 650, but I enjoy my time spent shooting a whole lot more. For me, the less time I "need" to spend reloading leaves me more time for shooting.
 
Quick and easy caliber changes....

I have the press set up with a separate turret for each cal. and change over's were very quick and easy.

VS. Quick and easy reloading...

So what's the problem? The progressive presses, and the high volume reloading mindset.... which is more of an exercise in logistics management... produced more ammo that I could shoot in several years, and I lost the relaxation and fun hobby that I used to really enjoy.

I sense a conflict.
 
I get what you're saying. That's why my Dillon is currently reserved for my gamer ammo (which requires such high volume that it is a real chore/source of stress to get enough cranked out on the LCT), while all my "recreational" ammo is produced on the LCT. I may eventually switch one or two calibers over, but I like tinkering-with-plinker'ing ammo... I like changing and experimenting too much to ever be progressive-only.
 
I started on a progressive a few months ago and have never done single stage. I am just a recreational plinker and target shooter. So I load enough to make sure I can shoot my guns and I don't feel the need to go fast. I'm on a 550B, so I can load single stage also if I just want to send one round through at a time. I guess I feel that given my shooting hobby, I should be able to do anything I'll ever want to, and at a speed I find satisfying.

Though, I'm still fooling with setting up toolheads so it fills the tinkering need. I guess I just look forward to fiddling with different powders and bullets on different loads. If only loading one round over and over for competition, yeah, I could see that being a little boring. If I ever did that, I'd most likely get a Dillon 650 to just save time.
 
If only loading one round over and over for competition, yeah, I could see that being a little boring. If I ever did that, I'd most likely get a Dillon 650 to just save time.

Yep. When you're cranking through one particular load a few thousand times to get loaded up for a weekend of practice followed by a major match with a weekly or two thrown in... that's boring stuff. Better to get through it quickly.
 
People often say you either reload to shoot or shoot to reload.

Well in my case I reload 38 special, 9mm and 223 so that I can shoot. I load them in bulk and shoot them in bulk and the joy of reloading that is gone so I now have a progressive to do that. It was getting to the point where I dreaded reloading for those 3.

For all the others it is definitely a matter of shoot so I can reload. I thoroughly enjoy making small qty's of rifle or magnum pistol ammo on my turret.
 
I load all my rifle and most pistol single stage. I load 9mms once every few months on a loadmaster.....if I loaded everything on the loadmaster I'd probably hate it lol.
 
YMMV, but my advise to anyone thinking of upgrading to a progressive press would be to think through what your really enjoy about reloading and how much you are actually going to shoot.

I'd give the same advice to anyone thinking of NOT upgrading to a progressive press if they shoot a lot.
 
YMMV, but my advise to anyone thinking of upgrading to a progressive press would be to think through what your really enjoy about reloading and how much you are actually going to shoot.

► I'm right there with you, brother. The trick with any press purchase is to look into the future. Will you be shooting less after the new baby arrives? Will you be shooting more in retirement?

► However, you may have no grounds for complaint either. Think about it... Most casual competition shooters will pay of a Lee press in a matter of months, based on the cost of reloads vs. buying the same volume of factory ammo at Walmart. So it's not like you're making payments on a car you can't drive. The thing has paid for itself !

► Now that I no longer shoot competitively, what a progressive does for me is allow me to share my shooting hobby with friends, neighbors and family several times a year. I can't put a price tag on that.
 
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Yeah, there is a reason I like my LCT so much. It is a pleasure to use. The 650 was never a pleasure. When I fist bought it I belonged to a great pistol club, I went every week or every couple. 400-800 rounds a month.
Things change. Right now I could uncover it and load 3000 rounds in an afternoon, but I have no need.

It hasn't affected my like for or spoiled reloading at all for me.
 
THe LCT is a very forgiving press. It will still be there and it welcome you back after you have shot up all that progressive fodder and return to enjoy the hobby. :thumbup:
 
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