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Proper NFA Trust Name

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by whubbard, Aug 5, 2012.

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  1. kimbershot

    kimbershot Member

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    just did my trust and sent in in last fri. first name, last name, rlt, city, state is what i will have engraved on my barrel. keep it simple.:what:
     
  2. Rob62

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    Let me try and answer what has been brought up.

    You can name your Living Revocable Trust (LRT) anything you want. However the **entire** trust name and city / state MUST be engraved on your NFA item if you are making/building it. No abbreviations except your two letter state code.

    So if you decide to name your trust "Johnathan Paulson Jones Living Revocable Trust" all that must be engraved on your firearm. Plus the city and state of the trust. So if the address of the trust shows Atlanta, GA you would need to have "Johnathan Paulson Jones Living Revocable Trust Atlanta GA" engraved. You specifically can not only engrave "JPJ Living Revocable Trust Atlanta GA", "JPJ RLT Atlanta GA" or "Johnathan Paulson Jones RLT Atlanta GA" to shorten it, on your item. The only thing that can be abbreviated is the state i.e. GA for Georgia

    My personal opinion is that for an individual you should tie your actual name in some context to the trust name.

    In the above example I would *actually* name my RLT "JPJ Living Revocable Trust" - short, sweet, and not to much to have engraved (don't forget the city and state also get engraved). If anyone ever asks you about the issue in a legal context, its pretty easy to say and prove that you are Johnathan Paulson Jones of the "JPJ Living Revocable Trust"

    I'll be the first to admit that at the below links there is talk about recognized abbreviations and marking variances. But from everyone I have spoken to about this issue, and all I have read from credible sources these points are moot as BATFE has not in actual practice recognizing them.

    Hope that makes sense.

    Regards,
    Rob

    http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2008/08/what-is-required-by-the-atf-fo.html

    http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/national-firearms-act-firearms.html

    http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-chapter-7.pdf
     
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