Proposed NJ law could affect online forums

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TheEgg, it may be less sinister than you think. The Communications Decency Act says that ISPs and providers of interactive computer services (like THR) are not liable for publication of false and defamatory remarks (libel). Only the person who made the comment would be liable; but in a forum like this they will also often be anonymous so it is difficult to bring a suit.

The NJ law apparently seeks to make it easier to quash such speech on the Internet by shifting the burden on finding the real identity of the person from the person who was allegedly defamed to the ISP or interactive computer service. Instead of making it YOUR problem to find out who this mysterious TheEgg is if you wish to sue him, it makes it THRs problem.
 
I'm starting to think that there is no Republican politicos north of the Mason-Dixon line. You have Democrats running as Republicans just to get on the ballot. All races are Dems against Dems.:cuss: :fire:
 
I doubt that a forum that requires a person to register, be approved, and use a username and password to gain access can be considered public.
 
The NJ law apparently seeks to make it easier to quash such speech on the Internet
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Kind of what it looks like on first blush, doesn't it?



Oh and BTW, TheEgg is much easier to find than the virtue of a N.J. politician!!!

(OOPS, is that Defamatory, or just True?):neener:
 
Let's say the law gets passed.

NJwuss get's flamed by Joe1stAmender (J1A) because NJwuss has no clue what he's talking about. NJwuss decides to file charges against J1A. J1A gets a subpeona to appear in court and blows it off, because he lived in East Hay-Zues, Texas, is 18.01 years old, works in a Burger King, and has high school midterms that week. So the judge issues a bench warrant for failure to appear. A week later, J1A gets pulled over because he has too many of his friends piled into his Reliant K. The officer runs his DL and comes up with a warrant.

Guess who's life gets real interesting.

FWIW ultimately, this law would get struck down in court, but then again, maybe not.
 
[QUOTE]grew up in Elsmere and Newark, DE. As far as the suburbatronic-unit culture goes, New Jersey has nothing whatsoever on Delaware. Or, say, King of Prussia and Hatboro, PA, both of which places I've lived in.

Rather than spending your energy on bashing, I would invite you to do something helpful. Check out the link in my .sig.
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Give up no state. Give up no ground.
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Well said!
 
TENNTUCKER, you nailed it!
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I no longer believe that it is possible for freedom to prevail in large urban areas, the people attracted by them are seeking the security of the beehive. I never could understand how us Rednecks and Hillbillys got equated with inferiority, we stand on our own merits. We can make a living on a flat rock, just so long as there ain't any asphalt on top of it!
Giuliani, Pataki, and Bloomberg, may pass as conservative, or republican, on their own turf, in the free world, they are just not gonna pass, at all!:what:
 
TENNTUCKER, you nailed it!
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I no longer believe that it is possible for freedom to prevail in large urban areas, the people attracted by them are seeking the security of the beehive. I never could understand how us Rednecks and Hillbillys got equated with inferiority, we stand on our own merits. We can make a living on a flat rock, just so long as there ain't any asphalt on top of it!
Giuliani, Pataki, and Bloomberg, may pass as conservative, or republican, on their own turf, in the free world, they are just not gonna pass, at all!
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What makes you inferior of intellect, has nothing to do with being a "Redneck or Hillbilly" it's just plain ignorance is all. Here in beautiful Sussex County New Jersey, and bordering Orange County New York, we are called "Rednecks and Hillbillies" all the time by folks from the city, or suburbia, since we live in a mountainous and rural community. Concrete does not come into the equation here, or in 95% of either state.
But of coarse, it's what you see on TV is what's real, huh?

Remember, there could be a gun grabbing liberal in your future. Na! Your immune.:rolleyes:

GIVE UP NO STATE. GIVE UP NO GROUND!
 
Unity, gentlemen, unity must be our watchword. We must hang together or President Corzine will certainly hang us separately.

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Corslime would enjoy it too.

Unity MUST be our watchword. Isolation will be the main cause for defeat. The sooner unity is the rule, and not the exception, the stronger we will be.
 
"Unity, gentlemen, unity must be our watchword. We must hang together or President Corzine will certainly hang us separately".
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Yeah, but if our politicians had tried the crap that your politicians have pulled off, the mushroom cloud would still be visible, to the South of you!
Have you ever led a delegation to your state reps office, and told him, "pass this law if you must, and I will die in my freakin driveway, before you enforce it on me"? I have, and am ready to do it, again.
In the final analysis, anything that you will not risk your butt to keep, is gonna go away. If someone wants to steal it more, than you want to keep it, kiss it goodbye!
I am an old fart, I have watched the course of compromise and negotiation lead ever further down the hill, since long before a lot of you were even a gleam in your daddy's eye. I have watched us lose, just because we will not say "NO", and mean it!
 
I havn't thought it out, but this sounds like it goes against the "right of the people peaceably to assemble." I mean, the Gov can't require, quite literally, a complete checklist of people assembling in order to allow it. It doesn't even have the power to disallow it.
 
swampsniper, You should be aware that my house sits on 137 acres of land which I lease a portion of for farming. I have hunted this land since I was a kid. I have also hunted the surrounding area, including Orange county New York. Trust me, when I say, I'll be dammed if I'm going to give up what rights I grew up enjoying, to the likes of any politician, with out a grand old battle.
 
And I thought Jimmy Durante was dead.

Guess not.
 

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"swampsniper, You should be aware that my house sits on 137 acres of land which I lease a portion of for farming. I have hunted this land since I was a kid. I have also hunted the surrounding area, including Orange county New York. Trust me, when I say, I'll be dammed if I'm going to give up what rights I grew up enjoying, to the likes of any politician, with out a grand old battle".
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I don't doubt you for a second! Thing is, it is easy to convince me, I naturally agree with you, but, someone up there does not believe that you mean what you say!
Someone up there believes that you are only blowing smoke. Someone up there figures that you are no damned way serious!
Bro, one damned sure thing is that you are gonna die, you can't choose when, but, you can choose how!
If we refuse to compromise, there won't be any way to lose, a war of attrition!
 
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I don't doubt you for a second! Thing is, it is easy to convince me, I naturally agree with you, but, someone up there does not believe that you mean what you say!
Someone up there believes that you are only blowing smoke. Someone up there figures that you are no damned way serious!
Bro, one damned sure thing is that you are gonna die, you can't choose when, but, you can choose how!
If we refuse to compromise, there won't be any way to lose, a war of attrition!
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Your wrong again. If my words, and many, many fellow New Jersey-an's words have not been heard, our state would be just like California by now. We are in the trenches, and it's an up hill battle. You have no idea. The last thing we need is the "Jersey bashing" that seems to occur in almost every thread of this nature.

We need your support. Such proposed infringements of our 1st, and 2nd amendment rights is not to be tolerated by anyone, anywhere in America.
If your an American, and we still call it - The United States of America.
 
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And I thought Jimmy Durante was dead.
Guess not
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hope you're not comparing him to the commie who proposed this law? Durante is the one who said

just leave the people the hell alone
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That's freakin funny:D

Was Jimmy Durante from Jersey?
 
"We are in the trenches, and it's an up hill battle. You have no idea."
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Oh, boolshat!
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I know you said you was "an old Fart". I think you may have left a word out in that description of yourself. :scrutiny:
 
I am an old fart, I have watched the course of compromise and negotiation lead ever further down the hill, since long before a lot of you were even a gleam in your daddy's eye. I have watched us lose, just because we will not say "NO", and mean it!
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My dad is 87. He served in WWII and Korea. He's old, but not an "old Fart". Most certainly not a ____ old Fart.Thank God.
 
This matter isn't worth a lot of fuss, I think, because it's easily corrected by the operators of forums and other Internet content providers putting the state of New Jersey into what might appropriately be called "Biondage."

All they need do, I think, is deny access to any Internet account holder identifiable by IP address as originating in New Jersey. Entire IP address ranges can be blocked out at the forum level.

The forum operators should be able to argue that they made a good faith effort to comply with the spirit of New Jersey's law by not providing services within that state and New Jersey can then continue unimpeded on its course of emulating China.

Assemblyman Biondi is onto something big. He should also require all news media to print the real names and addresses of anyone who writes or publishes a news report, by the way, and all legislative assistants to publish their real names and addresses. This approach to Biondage could have wide beneficial effects and win Pete Biondi (and New Jersey) an enduring place in history.
 
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