Pulled plated bullets after heavy roll crimp: NO SIZE CHANGE!

[catgunguy]

I hope this not to off subject, but what did you use to pull those bullets?
A hammer puller or collet puller?
Thanks.

 

[buck460XVR]

I agree with most of the others....the crimp is too much. Putting that much crimp will shorten case life and could possibly buckle a case that is a tad longer than the one the die was set up from. It also is unnecessary. Even with my full house .460 loads, I don't use that much crimp and have yet to have a bullet jump crimp. The reason the FCD ring does not touch the case with your plated bullets and it does with the XTPs has to do with the diameter of the bullet and how much it expands the case when it is seated. Shows the neck tension wiht the XTPs is quite a bit more than with the plated. As others have said, such a heavy roll crimp with plated bullets altho not deforming the bullet itself, could cut thru the plating. Back off your crimp and watch for bullet jump. I'd bet you'd be surprised at how much less crimp you can get away with, especially with plated bullets at modest velocities.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

I've never seen partial neck sizing done with a roll crimp die before!

Mike

 

[gamestalker]

Hartcreek, that is exactly what I was saying, my roll crimps looked like that many years ago when I had first started reloading, and then I learned how to crimp.

But this type of issue was caused by crimping to far above the bottom of the canelure, increase the oal, adjust your crimp, and try again. And considering the OP didn't deform the bullet, when you are crimping in the right spot, you can indeed deform a bullet with too much crimp, plated, jacketed, or other wise.

GS

 

[IMtheNRA]

While I'm impressed with the bullet's ability to withstand that level of abuse, I don't understand the perceived benefit of resorting to this weirdness. Even though you haven't blown up, the bullet is still of proper size, and you seem to have adequate case life expectancy, why not just learn the proper reloading procedure and crimp your ammo correctly?

 

[JRWhit]

That crimp IS NOT a taper crimp. That is what happens when you roll crimp way to excessively you can actually put a flat in the cannalure. 25 years ago I had a few crimps that looked like that till I backed off.

As for your powder charge you are using H110 which is the same as 296 and it does not require what you are doing.

I use 296 for .44 magnums and I have loadings of 28 grains with a 200 grain hornady XTP and 24.7 grains with 240 grain bullets and a good roll crimp is all I need to prevent set back. I have even used 22 grains of 296 with a 200 grain bullet in my Smith 624 with a good roll crimp and there was NO set back.

My loads clearly exceed yours and no I would not advise any one using that .44 Special load as with the wrong weapon you be missing fingers.

Sorry, I am mistaken. I was wrongfully under the impression that all the LEE FCDs taper crimped.