Q: Anyone mount a 1x,2x, or 1-4x on a Flattop AR?

[SharpsDressedMan]

The reason I ask, is that I want to mount a Leupold 1-4X (a 1" dia. scope with straight objective), and need to know if you can use medium rings, or need high or extra high rings. All I have to clear is the eyepiece end of the scope, as there is no big objective lense to accomodate. On a flattop where the scope will be mounted right on top, what rings do you use? Any help is appreciated.

 

[Zerodefect]

I'd not use rings at all. I have used the 1-4x scopes with Laure scope mounts and it was perfect. Larue makes thier mounts specificly for the AR15 system.

I believe the one I used was a Lt104 which is the same mount I use on my Mk12 SPR.

Larue also offers an extended mount that reaches further forward for the scopes that need more eye relief. But I'd call Larue and ask what they suggest for your scope. Or post in Larues forum at Ar15.com.

The center of my scope measures aproximately 1.5" from the tops of the flattop rail lugs.

Looks like Larue uses the Lt104 combo'd with the Leopold 1-4x:
http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=82

Lt104 mount:
http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=30

 

[helotaxi]

If you don't want to drop the $$$ for the Larue, the Burris P.E.P.R. mounts work quite well. My 1-4 scope is mounted on one of my ARs with an ADM quick detach mount that also works extremely well and can be found for a great deal less than the Larue as well.

 

[68wj]

With the AR, it isn't as much about clearing the objective lens (though it can be with larger scopes), but about cheek weld and eye relief. Like helotaxi recommended, the Burris PEPR is a good option. Leupold just came out with a similar model and, of course, the LaRue is a top shelf contender.

 

[Z-Michigan]

The PEPR is a good value at $70-80 or so. I'm sure Larue is better, but for 2x more it should be.

If you want to use conventional rings, you will probably need high or extra-high to get a suitable cheekweld. As others have noted, you may clear the objective with lower rings, but the cheekweld may not work well.

 

[rjrivero]

High Rings, if going the "traditional ring" route work best for a natural cheek weld. AR specific rings are even better. No guess work.

 

[R.W.Dale]

I have run a 2x7x33 on my flattop huntin ar off and on.

But I can't really add anything cause mine is built around a RRA high rise upper which places things perfectly with a set of med rings


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[HJ857]

I'm in agreement with the other posts so far, but I'd also say that personal preference is part of it, as well as how you're using it.

I have one upper set up with a Burris 1x4 on a LaRue SPR-E and I have that on a 1/2" riser, so it's pretty tall, but I use it for 2 and 3 gun competitions and I like a very heads up position, both eyes open, NTCH.

On a different upper I have a longer scope and I use it only for bench and prone shooting and I have that on high rings so I can be lower on the stock. Of course, FWIW.

 

[Zak Smith]

You need approx 1.5" from rail top to ring center

 

[wnycollector]

If you are on a tight budget check out the Primary Arms Deluxe one piece mount for ~$25.

+1 on the pepr mount IF you can find a 1" mount in-stock.

Finally, if you want to go with rings I would suggest checking out the extra high Burris XTR rings.

 

[rbernie]

For my sporting/non-critical use AR's that use 1" optic tubes, I use the Leupold Rifleman SeeThru Weaver rings. They put the optic at the correct height and are quite inexpensive.

 

[gotigers]

I have a Weaver Classic 1-3x mounted on my AR using a Burris PEPR. The combo works great. The Weaver is a 1" DIA scope and the PEPR is a 1" rings.

 

[TonyAngel]

As has been mentioned, the height of the rings isn't so much about clearing anything as it is getting the right cheek weld. As for which setup would work for you depends a bit on the stock that you are running. If you have a collapsable stock and want to shoot with your nose to the charging handle, you're gonna need some sort of cantilevered setup, like the PEPR, Larue, ADM, Bobro, etc.

If you are running a full length stock, you may just be able to use rings. It is usually the ultra high models that work well. Of course, I've seen guys that preferred their scopes lower to the axis of the bore. Whatever works for you.

 

[cougar1717]

While I usually do not like anything labeled "tactical," the Burris Xtreme Tactical rings are good if you want to put rings on your flattop. The tallest ones (3/4") height work well for flattops, however, the problem with a lot of scopes is that they need to be mounted further forward than rings will allow. That is why the Burris PEPR mount is hard to beat, that is, unless a person would use this gun in their profession.

 

[helotaxi]

I seriously doubt that you could do anything to hurt a PEPR that would not also make the optic unseviceable. The only issues I've heard of damaging them have come during install and all have involved being a gorilla on the screws and nuts and either stripping them or snapping the crossbolts by torquing the crap out of the nut well beyond what is needed to secure it.

 

[sleepercaprice1]

I tend to shoot with my nose close to the charging handle. Most of the one piece mounts don't allow enough eye relief for my taste. I usually use a YHM cantilever rail with standard rings. I also like the Weaver V3 for a good low priced AR optic.

 

[Skyshot]

Millett also makes an AR flattop ring set P/N# AL00722

 

[G27RR]

The Nikon M-223 mount is also good. I have one of those and a couple PEPR mounts. LaRue is great if you need or want the quick detach system they use.

 

[Rmiller31]

Are you using a fixed front sight post or flip down sights?

Reason I ask is you might look into the larue 1.93 mount. You prob won't notice the sight at 4x mag but you'll see it at 1x.

 

[Welding Rod]

The hardest part about an optic with an AR is getting proper eye relief - as in getting optic far enough forward to have a proper head position on the stock.

I think the best value gong is RRA's high rise cantilever mount. It cost $60, free shipping, most likely no tax, and is made in the USA so somebody get to keep a job. Personally I don't usually go for quick connect things. I prefer theads, Loc-Tite, and torque.

The purpose built mounts like this give you the proper optic elevation too.