quad rails and vertical grips

[halfded]

I've got a YHM 2-piece carbine length light weight quad rail in the for sale section.

Good part for the money.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=519734

Shoot me a PM if you're interested.

 

[dom1104]

I have zero use for quad rails, all I mount is a light on a MOE handgaurd and call it done.

just added a MOE VFG, and so far, it seems decent.

Total cost in handgaurds, light, rail sections, and vfg?

less than 150.

most of that being the surefire.


The only benefit I can see rails providing is free float. Which I have yet to require that extra smidge of accuracy out of my carbine.

 

[jmorris]

can you still fire just as quickly and accuractly as with the vertical grip?

Take a look at most every competitive shooters 3-gun rifle (a timed and scored event), there are not a bunch of gizmos hanging off/attached to them. If it is something that can snag or get in the way, it will. Spending $150 on a FF tube that you then have to spend another $50 on covers for it so it doesn't catch on everthing, just doesn't sit right with me.

Then again no one has ever beat me just because their rifle looked "cool". If that were the case I might change my mind.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Well, my ideal AR handguard looks like this:

1. Lets me place gear anywhere I want using existing mounts I already have.
2. Lightweight - lighter than standard handguards if possible
3. Smooth polymer everywhere I don't have gear
4. Helps handguard cool like a big aluminium heat sink
5. Free-floats the barrel
6. Has an uninterrupted monolithic top rail as solid as the upper receiver

Unfortunately, nobody makes that, so I make compromises instead I think the VTAC handguard is probably the closest to my ideal right now; but I don't see enough of an advantage there that I am going to replace my old Daniel Defense 9.0 rail.

The big things I like about the DD 9.0 are:

1. Lightweight - the 7.0 with aluminium barrel nut is lighter than a set of M4 handguards installed.
2. I can put gear whereever I want (although in reality, there is really only about 2-3 places it ever ends up)
3. Better cooling
4. Free floats the barrel
5. Rigid enough to mount a T1 on and still have no zero issues out to 100yds.

Typically, it seems like many of the substitutes I see (Magpul MOE handguards, free-float tubes with adjustable rail sections) sacrifice some combination of 2-5.

 

[rifleman14]

thank you all (especially tirod) for talking me down from jumping off the quad rail cliff
i realize now that the most i will ever really need to put on the handguard is a light. with that being said, does anyone make quality, durable, reliable, rail sections that can somehow be attatched to the holes on a standard M4 handguard?

Thanks a lot everyone,

Dylan

 

[rifleman14]

i just researched the magpul moe handguard and it looks great...cheap, light, and you can put rails in different spots and remove them...this was just from a few minutes of research though so can someone possibly tell me in detail what the moe handguards are all about? what can you do with them, hows the quality on them, any disadvantages compared to standard M4 handguards, etc. This handguard looked great to me because as i said, all i need is a flashlight on my handguards and this looks like a great way of doing it..

Thanks again everyone,

Dylan

 

[Z-Michigan]

MOE handguards and a $6 polymer MOE rail section would likely fit your refined purpose.

I have MOE handguards on a Shrubmaster and they are good for what they claim to be - plastic handguards with a better feel than OEM M4 handguards, and somewhat easier ability to add rail sections. The main benefit of the MOE is that slots on the sides are intended to allow rail sections, while with M4 handguards only the top and bottom are well suited to adding rails.

I had a VFG on my MOE handguards and found it clumsy and not solid enough. But a small light, like a pistol light, should be just fine.