midland man
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so I am now looking at purchasing a 1873 cattleman steel or cattleman brass 45 colt pistol by uberti, is these good to well built pistols? thanks! 
question about a. uberti 45 colt pistols?
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Driftwood Johnson
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Yes, they are well built pistols. No, they are not Colts, but then again, they do not cost as much as a Colt. Keep the loads to SAMMI Max, none of that extra hot stuff, no Ruger Only loads and they will serve you well.
Just so you know, the Colt Single Action Army that the Ubertis are based on were never made with a brass trigger guard or backstrap. Always steel.
Yes, they are well built pistols. No, they are not Colts, but then again, they do not cost as much as a Colt. Keep the loads to SAMMI Max, none of that extra hot stuff, no Ruger Only loads and they will serve you well.
Just so you know, the Colt Single Action Army that the Ubertis are based on were never made with a brass trigger guard or backstrap. Always steel.
35 Whelen
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I have several Uberti's and am proud of all of them. All very accurate and highly dependable. I have one 3rd Generation Colt I bought for an investment and honestly it just feels cheesy when the hammer is cocked.
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red rick
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I waited for over a year ( still waiting ) for a 5 1/2 Colt . Never saw one at a reasonable price , so I bought a Taylor's Smoke Wagon ( made by Uberti ) . I am very happy with it . Very good fit and the wood grips that come on it are better than the plastic Colt grips . The Colt does have a beautiful blue finish , not that the Uberti's is bad .
jimbo555
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My Cimarron frontier shoots straight and looks good too! It's a Pietta.
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I have an El Patron Competition that I'm quite pleased with. I've done some mods to it and it is the best Mod. P type firearm I've ever owned!!
royal barnes
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35 Whelen,
If I bought that Colt as an investment I don't think I would have cocked it.
If I bought that Colt as an investment I don't think I would have cocked it.
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"It's a Pietta" Meaning it's not a Uberti. Pietta is the competition.
Uberti is a very well known and well established firm of long standing, now owned by Beretta. That ought to testify to the quality of their arms. Between cap & ball, cartridge conversions of cap & ball, and cartridge arms, I have about, oh... <scratches head>.. Hmmm : 25 of them.
All are more than satisfactory.
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Uberti is a very well known and well established firm of long standing, now owned by Beretta. That ought to testify to the quality of their arms. Between cap & ball, cartridge conversions of cap & ball, and cartridge arms, I have about, oh... <scratches head>.. Hmmm : 25 of them.
All are more than satisfactory.
Willie
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35 Whelen
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Sight regulation is a recurring Uberti issue, don't be too astonished if whatever you get doesn't shoot to point of aim.
Denis
sight regulation can be a recurring issue with any fixed sight revolver unless you just happen to like the particular load that just happens to shoot to the sights.
To each his own. It's a miracle I haven't fired it as I don't do safe queens very well.
midland man the Uberti's really are of quite good quality, especially for the price. Makes me wonder what folks like S&W, Colt etc., do with all the extra money they charge for their products. But, I digress and submit some real world results with real world Uberti's:
Model P .44 Special:
Uberti made for Cabela's. Formerly a 440/40, now a .44 Special:
You can't go wrong with a Uberti. In fact I found them easier to obtain good accuracy with than either my Blackhawk .44 Special or my New Vaquero 45 Colt.
35W
RPRNY
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Sight regulation is a recurring Uberti issue, don't be too astonished if whatever you get doesn't shoot to point of aim.
Denis
Recurring issue with fixed sight single actions and perhaps more common with the Italians. I don't like fixed sight guns for this reason but if precision is not critical, then you can play with loads to adjust elevation, but both of my Ubertis also shot slightly left. Both have dovetailed driftable front sights now.
I have, in the past three months, worked with four Ubertis, and a number in the past.
All three cartridge guns shot inches low at 25 yards, but centered for windage, which was acceptable in that elevation could be corrected by filing the front sight.
This week I worked with a Uberti percussion, three inches high & four inches left.
I've discussed the issue with a custom shop that works almost exclusively with Ubertis.
My experiences are not unique, and this is a long-standing issue with them.
You never know.
They've improved over the years, but the sight regulation remains variable.
Denis
All three cartridge guns shot inches low at 25 yards, but centered for windage, which was acceptable in that elevation could be corrected by filing the front sight.
This week I worked with a Uberti percussion, three inches high & four inches left.
I've discussed the issue with a custom shop that works almost exclusively with Ubertis.
My experiences are not unique, and this is a long-standing issue with them.
You never know.
They've improved over the years, but the sight regulation remains variable.
Denis
Tommygunn
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Actually, early ones sometimes were as they were the same as the 1851 Navy used. Colt used leftovers from the 1851 line in early Peacemakers. They transitioned to steel, and when they ran out of the brass parts, it is true that they no longer used them.
The Uberti guns are indeed very well made, to reply to the OP's question.
Do not use inordinantly heavy loads....I'd use "cowboy" loads or blackpowder loads, but standard .45 Colt works fine.
Driftwood Johnson
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Can you give a reference to that information?
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I have a Beretta Stampede that was made by Uberti and have been very happy with it. Got it in .45 Colt to go with my Rossi Model 92. Excellent build quality with the Stampede and overall fit, finish, and function have been great.
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RainDodger
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I have both a Uberti and a Pietta. Equally nice. Both well made, both beautifully finished.
MachIVshooter
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Uberti makes good guns, and some of the most beautiful out there. The Uberti Sharps replicas are as nice as the actual Sharps (just as expensive, too).
BCRider
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On the sight regulation. One wants them to shoot either dead on or at least shoot low. That way they can figure out what bullet they like and power level they want and then trim the front sight down to suit.
Take note that this also depends on if the shooter uses a one hand or two hand hold.
I don't have any Uberti cardridge guns but the three cap and ball revolvers I've got are all superbly made.
The only shortcut I know of is the dull finish used on some of the less expensive models. Clearly those are bead or shot blasted so they don't need to be made to the same polish level as the colour case finish guns with polished blued cylinder and barrel. But frankly I find the matt blue-grey finish on those guns looks cheap to my eyes. So my suggestion is to pay a little more and buy one of the better finished models despite the added cost.
Take note that this also depends on if the shooter uses a one hand or two hand hold.
I don't have any Uberti cardridge guns but the three cap and ball revolvers I've got are all superbly made.
The only shortcut I know of is the dull finish used on some of the less expensive models. Clearly those are bead or shot blasted so they don't need to be made to the same polish level as the colour case finish guns with polished blued cylinder and barrel. But frankly I find the matt blue-grey finish on those guns looks cheap to my eyes. So my suggestion is to pay a little more and buy one of the better finished models despite the added cost.
As I said- better to be low than high, that's fairly easily fixable, and Uberti's gotten better in that respect.
I've had one that shot so high it had material welded onto the front blade to bring it down to practical elevation regulation. Those are annoying.
Others have shot high, low, left, right, and in general were anyplace but right on.
Just advising not to expect a perfect sight regulation, or be surprised if you don't get it in a new Uberti.
The El Patrone in .357 I had here in May shot 4-5 inches low & 1.5 inches left.
The Uberti .38 Schofield I had here in March shot 7-10 inches low.
And so on.
Denis
I've had one that shot so high it had material welded onto the front blade to bring it down to practical elevation regulation. Those are annoying.
Others have shot high, low, left, right, and in general were anyplace but right on.
Just advising not to expect a perfect sight regulation, or be surprised if you don't get it in a new Uberti.
The El Patrone in .357 I had here in May shot 4-5 inches low & 1.5 inches left.
The Uberti .38 Schofield I had here in March shot 7-10 inches low.
And so on.
Denis
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royal barnes
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Tommygunn,
I, too would like some documentation. Never heard it before and never seen one.
I, too would like some documentation. Never heard it before and never seen one.
Tommygunn
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Driftwood Johnson said:
royal barnes said:
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Sorry, guys. Mea Culpa, maximum memory miscombobulation (that's a technical term).
I thought I'd recalled that Colt used old brass TG & BS on early peacemakers.
Checking back in the only source I could find "I think" I was misremembering Colt 1871 Open Tops (which originally had Navy sized grips and brass hardware) until the next year when they were given steel hardware and Army sized grips.
The problem is the only source I actually have remaining only says that Colt often saved batches of parts that would be used in later revolvers if they were the right size .... but it says nothing about peacemakers in particular.
I apologize and hereby withdraw the claim I made above.
Driftwood, a particular apology to you as it was your post I contradicted.
You think you remember things .... then you put on 20 years and "PHHHT!" you think it's there ... but it's out to lunch.
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