Question about carry Conditions

[wyosasquatch]

I have tried to search about this and have even used Google but I can't find the definitions for Condition 1 and Condition 3 (got about 1000 hits and none have the definition but it just says that someone is carrying in Condition 1 or 3).

I think I figured out that Condition 1 is carrying with a round in the chamber (semi-auto) and that Condition 3 is carrying with a loaded magazine but not one in the chamber.

Is there a Condition 2? Are there more than 3 Conditions? Where do these definitions come from?

Sorry if I am asking something that has been hashed and rehashed, I just couldn't find anything specific about it.

 

[General Geoff]

Said conditions were invented for the 1911 platform.

Condition 0 is loaded chamber, hammer cocked, safety off.
Condition 1 is loaded chamber, hammer cocked, safety on.
Condition 2 is loaded chamber, hammer down, safety off.
Condition 3 is empty chamber.


Many of these conditions do not (and often cannot) apply to Glocks or other pistols that are either DAO, have no external safety, or have no exposed hammer.

 

[wyosasquatch]

Thank you. I had figured out a couple of these but did not know if they applied to other weapons. I would assume that these conditions will not apply for my XD?

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

No they don't really apply to modern striker fired autos since condition 0,1, and 2 are all the same in a XD, Glock, etc.
It's either a round in the pipe or not, no external safeties, no traditional hammer.

 

[K5mitch]

Despite the differences... If you state you carry your glock/xd/etc Condition One, people know what you mean.

 

[AZ_Rebel]

Jeff Cooper defined the levels of carry (for the 1911) thusly:

Condition 0 - A round is in the chamber, hammer is cocked, and the safety is off.

Condition 1 - Also known as "cocked and locked," means a round is in the chamber, the hammer is cocked, and the manual thumb safety on the side of the frame is applied.

Condition 2 - A round is in the chamber and the hammer is down.

Condition 3 - The chamber is empty and hammer is down with a charged magazine in the gun.

Condition 4 - The chamber is empty, hammer is down and no magazine is in the gun.

 

[Drgong]

Indeed, there been some debates about which is better, Condition 1 or condition 3. (Very few if any carry in condition 2, for a number of reasons)

I used to be Condition 3 till today, and i am eating crow over here

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=384015

 

[ar10]

I think XD's would be a condition 0 or Condition 4. 1, 2, and 3. have no value at all.