Question about getting a CCP in GA or SC

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I'm going to be in Georgia for 3 and half months starting in a week. I'll be in Agusta, just a few miles across the border from SC. I'm still a legal resident of SC.

My point is, I plan on bringing my Sig 1911 in a lockbox with me and seeing about getting a CCP from GA and/or SC (since my CCP from WA is only good in about 8 other states). Between GA and SC, which state's CCP is recognized by the most states? Is there any prohibition against me holding multiple CCPs, and if so, would it be better for me to have one from SC than WA?

I'll have a good deal of free time on my hands on the weekends while I'm there with nothing better to do than sit through whatever classes those states require for a CCP (WA just requires fingerprints & a background check).

Any thoughts, ideas, or info on where I go in Agusta or a town near Agusta in SC to apply for a CCP would be greatly appreciated!

By the way, before anyone warns me about this, I'm not taking the pistol on Fort Gordon, it will stay strictly off post in either a hotel with the wife (hence the lockbox) or at my parents house in SC when I'm not using it to qualify for the CCP [if qualification is required].
 
Have you looked at getting a Florida Non Resident carry permit?
 
I won't be all that close to FL, but I'll look into it.

I'm just looking for a CCP that'll be good back here in WA, but also good in many other states. My WA state CCP is only good in 8 or so states; probably because they don't require a class and range qualification. I don't really plan on carrying in GA or SC, I'm really just taking the Sig 1911 in case GA or SC has a range qualification as part of their CCP application (and also so I can go to a local indoor range a few times while I'm there).
 
You could get your SC permit if you are still a legal resident there but Ga & SC do not have reciprocity. SC requires training GA doesn't. The FL license may be a viable option. There is a lot of info about Georgia Firearms License at www.georgiapacking.org

There is more info. at http://www.handgunlaw.us/
 
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you cant get a GA license unless you become a resident.... i would get a PA(26.00$ no training apply thru Centre County PA) or FL, UT etc

your not military are you?? if you are you dont need a permit to carry in GA see OCGA 16-11-130.3 in fact military are exempt from off limits places just like a LEO...

also you cant carry carry in GA until you establish residency or get a reciprocal permit... this is because currently your ineligible for a GFL(due to the residency requirement) and according to case law you cant carry open in a car because the courts consider it pretty much impossible...

also check out www.georgiapacking.org to read up on the GA laws in plain english
 
I'm not visiting Agusta GA just to get a CCP; I'm going to be there for 3.5 months for my MOS transition school. I figured that while I was there, I'd see if either GA or SC CCPs are valid back here in WA state where I live and also honored by more states than a WA CCP.

I'd only bother getting a GA or SC CCP if it's honored in WA state and is honored by significantly more states than my WA state CCP. If that's the case, then I'll have plenty of time on the weekends while I'm there to go through whatever process either state has for getting a CCP. SC is only about 5 miles from Agusta GA, so going there on the weekends is a non-issue.

By the way, GA doesn't have any sort of CA type ban on mags over 10 rounds do they?
 
No, they don't. But you're nuts if you think your Tradocville CO will let you carry off-duty. Ask me how I know.

I don't plan on carrying while I'm there. Nor do I plan on bringing that 1911 anywhere near Fort Gordon. It'll stay locked up off post when I'm not going to a range [off post].

It would seem that WA state honors neither a GA or a SC CCP. I think that's because neither state honors WA's CCP. Well, in that case I'll only get a permit from GA or SC if I'm allowed to have two CCPs simultaneously [which I doubt].
 
More than likely, but I won't be spending 3.5 months in Utah with nothing to do on the weekends. I might try going down to FL while I'm there though, I'll see how far that is from Agusta and such.

The school I'm going to isn't really TRADOC, or at least it shouldn't be. I went to Airborne school at Fort Benning GA immediately following the last overseas trip and that was less than no fun. This school is just a classroom thing for transitioning to the 25B [IT guy] MOS.
 
You don't have to go to either Florida or Utah to get a Florida or Utah permit. You can start right now and do it all by mail. (However, you do need a class from a Utah certified instructor who then must sign off on your Utah application, but there are Utah certified instructors giving Utah classes all around the country. They're listed on the Utah website.)

For Florida information, go to http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/index.html.

For Utah information, go to http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/concealedfirearms.html.

Also check out http://www.handgunlaw.us/.
 
since your gonna be stationed in Augusta(i suggest carrying i do when there...) you can carry on your Military ID just like a GA LEO you will be exempt from off limits places like Public Gatherings(church, rock concerts, political rallies etc) heres the law
http://georgiapacking.org/GaCode/?title=16&chapter=11&section=130O.C.G.A. § 16-11-130
Exemptions from Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128

(a) Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 shall not apply to or affect any of the following persons if such persons are employed in the offices listed below or when authorized by federal or state law, regulations, or order:

(1) Peace officers, as such term is defined in paragraph (11) of Code Section 16-1-3, and retired peace officers so long as they remain certified whether employed by the state or a political subdivision of the state or another state or a political subdivision of another state but only if such other state provides a similar privilege for the peace officers of this state;

(2) Wardens, superintendents, and keepers of correctional institutions, jails, or other institutions for the detention of persons accused or convicted of an offense;

(3) Persons in the military service of the state or of the United States;

(4) Persons employed in fulfilling defense contracts with the government of the United States or agencies thereof when possession of the weapon is necessary for manufacture, transport, installation, and testing under the requirements of such contract;

(5) District attorneys, investigators employed by and assigned to a district attorney's office, assistant district attorneys, attorneys or investigators employed by the Prosecuting Attorneys' Council of the State of Georgia, and any retired district attorney, assistant district attorney, district attorneys investigator, or attorney or investigator retired from the Prosecuting Attorneys' Council of the State of Georgia, if such employee is retired in good standing and is receiving benefits under Title 47 or is retired in good standing and receiving benefits from a county or municipal retirement system;

(6) State court solicitors-general; investigators employed by and assigned to a state court solicitor-general's office; assistant state court solicitors-general; the corresponding personnel of any city court expressly continued in existence as a city court pursuant to Article VI, Section X, Paragraph I, subparagraph (5) of the Constitution; and the corresponding personnel of any civil court expressly continued as a civil court pursuant to said provision of the Constitution;

(7) Those employees of the State Board of Pardons and Paroles when specifically designated and authorized in writing by the members of the State Board of Pardons and Paroles to carry a weapon;

(8) The Attorney General and those members of his or her staff whom he or she specifically authorizes in writing to carry a weapon;

(9) Chief probation officers, probation officers, intensive probation officers, and surveillance officers employed by and under the authority of the Department of Corrections pursuant to Article 2 of Chapter 8 of Title 42, known as the "State-wide Probation Act," when specifically designated and authorized in writing by the director of Division of Probation;

(10) Public safety directors of municipal corporations;

(11) Explosive ordnance disposal technicians, as such term is defined by Code Section 16-7-80, and persons certified as provided in Code Section 35-8-13 to handle animals trained to detect explosives, while in the performance of their duties;

(12) State and federal trial and appellate judges, full-time and permanent part-time judges of municipal and city courts, and former state trial and appellate judges retired from their respective offices under state retirement;

(13) United States Attorneys and Assistant United States Attorneys;

(14) County medical examiners and coroners and their sworn officers employed by county government; and

(15) Clerks of the superior courts.

(b) Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 shall not apply to or affect persons who at the time of their retirement from service with the Department of Corrections were chief probation officers, probation officers, intensive probation officers, or surveillance officers, when specifically designated and authorized in writing by the director of Division of Probation.

(c) Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 shall not apply to or affect any:

(1) Sheriff, retired sheriff, deputy sheriff, or retired deputy sheriff if such retired deputy sheriff is receiving benefits under the Peace Officers' Annuity and Benefit Fund provided under Chapter 17 of Title 47;

(2) Member of the Georgia State Patrol or agent of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation or retired member of the Georgia State Patrol or agent of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation if such retired member or agent is receiving benefits under the Employees' Retirement System;

(3) Full-time law enforcement chief executive engaging in the management of a county, municipal, state, state authority, or federal law enforcement agency in the State of Georgia, including any college or university law enforcement chief executive that is registered or certified by the Georgia Peace Officer Standards and Training Council; or retired law enforcement chief executive that formerly managed a county, municipal, state, state authority, or federal law enforcement agency in the State of Georgia, including any college or university law enforcement chief executive that was registered or certified at the time of his or her retirement by the Georgia Peace Officer Standards and Training Council, if such retired law enforcement chief executive is receiving benefits under the Peace Officers' Annuity and Benefit Fund provided under Chapter 17 of Title 47 or is retired in good standing and receiving benefits from a county, municipal, State of Georgia, state authority, or federal retirement system; or

(4) Police officer of any county, municipal, state, state authority, or federal law enforcement agency in the State of Georgia, including any college or university police officer that is registered or certified by the Georgia Peace Officer Standards and Training Council, or retired police officer of any county, municipal, state, state authority, or federal law enforcement agency in the State of Georgia, including any college or university police officer that was registered or certified at the time of his or her retirement by the Georgia Peace Officer Standards and Training Council, if such retired employee is receiving benefits under the Peace Officers' Annuity and Benefit Fund provided under Chapter 17 of Title 47 or is retired in good standing and receiving benefits from a county, municipal, State of Georgia, state authority, or federal retirement system.

In addition, any such sheriff, retired sheriff, deputy sheriff, retired deputy sheriff, active or retired law enforcement chief executive, or other law enforcement officer referred to in this subsection shall be authorized to carry a pistol or revolver on or off duty anywhere within the state and the provisions of Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 shall not apply to the carrying of such firearms.

(d) A prosecution based upon a violation of Code Section 16-11-126, 16-11-127, or 16-11-128 need not negative any exemptions.
 
also if you do apply for the GA GFL(around 65$) its good for 5 years even if you move from GA


the Florida line is about 4-5 hours im in brunswick about 40 mins from the line and from my house to augusta is around 3 hours with light traffic, iirc you military training will qualify you for a florida CCW iirc?
 
Happygeek,

Your best bet is a Florida or Utah =non-resident= permit. You don't have to go to either state to get one, you can do the entire process by mail.
 
The school I'm going to isn't really TRADOC, or at least it shouldn't be.

Yes, it is a TRADOC school.

The information about active military stationed in GA not requiring a permit is accurate, but I would print out and carry the relevant code section (from a state website) if I were you, rather than assuming that all LEOs are aware of the exception.

You may also want to try for a Non-Resident permit from a state with South Carolina reciprocity. South Carolina doesn't share reciprocity with GA due to their training requirement.
 
I know in my state, Iowa, you can get a non-residential Florida CCW permit which has reciprocity in about a dozen and a half more states or so.
 
on the Georgiapacking.org site there are also Attorney General opinions there and one concerns carrying on your military ID
 
But again, your commander has final say. You are HIS property. Listen to his in-brief and read all policy memos very carefully. A memo on possession and storage of privately owned weapons is pretty standard. In TRADOC, POWs is one headache your CO doesn't want to deal with. When I have driven to bases for training, I checked my carry gun into the post PD, and had the CO sign the required paperwork, which he resented, because he already had plenty to do. If he is so sloppy that he doesn't brief you or have a posted policy, this doesn't really mean you can do whatever you want. If you just ask him if you can carry a gun off-post, off-duty, you already know what the answer will be.
 
im not so sure a commander can control your civil rights off base....yeah on base you gotta follow the rule..
 
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