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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by SteadyD, Jul 2, 2018.

  1. SteadyD

    SteadyD Member

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    I just picked up a Kahr CW380 a few days back. I know it is normal for the firing pin/striker to protrude from the breech face after dry firing, and then once the slide cycles the firing pin retracts. However, sometimes (once every five or six times perhaps)after dry firing the firing pin is NOT protruding from the breech face. Is this normal?

    Thanks as always!
     
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  2. unclenunzie

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    I think it's normal - at least in my experience with my Kahrs. Never really paid much attention to it once I understood the way these guns cycle. If you strip it and press the striker forward past the block, then touch the pin from the breech face, you can feel how little it takes for it to move back. I'm guessing your dry fire snap occasionally jars the striker back behind the block.
     
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  3. Charlie98

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    Have you cleaned it since you bought it? I would at least flush out the striker channel...
     
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  4. usp9

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    The firing pin protrudes until the side cycles to the rear. Normal. Cleaning not a bad idea. Google the "ripley retractor" to make disassembly of the slide easier. The Kahr Forum has many helpful tips.
     
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  5. Tony k

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    The owners manual covers this, iirc. I think that it is only an issue if the firing pin can protrude beyond the breech face after it's in the most rearward position with the firing pin block reset. I think that's a setup for a slam fire.
     
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  6. George P

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    The Kahr forum has a sticky on the proper method to prep your Kahr (and don't forget to check the mag spring if you're having issues, they sometimes get inserted backwards)
     
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  7. gb6491

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    I'd say normal.
    At the end of it's forward travel, the Kahr striker is not under any spring tension. It's possible for the striker to rebound back into the slide when dry firing (especially if the trigger is being held back).
    Regards,
    Greg
     
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  8. Jeb Stuart

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    Ditto on flushing out the striker channel. They seem to get dirty quick. I also believe that the Kahr likes Higher pressure ammo. Be sure and line up recoil springs correctly.

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  9. SteadyD

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    What method do you gents use to flush out the striker channel?
     
  10. Jeb Stuart

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    I started using a Sonic Cleaner about 6 months ago and one those gun accessories I can only wonder why I did not get one years ago. I use Ballistol Milk. (90% water and 10% Ballistol). Cleans great and leaves a very light coat of oil that does not gum up. I then use a can of compress air to blow everything out and dry. I have over time broken down and cleaned out all my striker channels. For me, the Kahr was on the difficult side. You have to be really careful not to loose a part are spring.
    Clean a firearm really well and then place in a sonic cleaner and be surprised what you left behind. I also dunk in my Magazines, Makes them very slick and they function great.
     
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    I did a search for "Ripley Retractor" and didn't find anything relating to Kahr pistols.
    Care to elaborate on what it is?
     
  12. Jeb Stuart

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    I believe it is just a name from a Individual owner for a homemade tool like a cut clothes hanger or such, Check out any video on Kahr takedown you can use a number of things
     
  13. usp9

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    Here's a link to a KahrTalk forum thread about the "ripley retractor" , a homemade tool to hold the striker, spring and guide rod in place while you remove the back plate. Prevents parts from flying away. Simple and effective when taking apart the upper of any Kahr. Turns a three handed process into a two handed process. Created by a forum member Ripley16 then later another forum member coined the term "Ripley Retractor". Sounds much better than "coathanger thingy".

    Use a small jeweler screwdriver to pull the guide rod off the back plate. Insert one end of the retractor into the space. Hook the other end onto the breach face. Pressure is relieved from the plate and you can begin the process to remove it, (another three handed task).

    http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread....-the-Kahr-s-Upper!&highlight=ripley+retractor
     
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  14. Jeb Stuart

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    Or this 15 cent piece (pegboard)

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    Just be sure to not loose any parts. It looks easier than it is. I always order spare recoil springs. And when I did I also included many of the small springs and parts, extractor as well. If you loose a spring you will have to pay for the shipping which is ridiculous. Better to be prepared ahead of the time.
     
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  15. usp9

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    How do you use the pegboard hook?

    FWIW; In my opinion, the tough part about working on a Kahr upper is relieving the pressure of the extractor spring and pin off of the backplate. The hole is tiny that one uses to push the pin away from the plate and the pin has a indent in which it rests so it has to be moved a distance to clear the indent. Again, I use a small jewelers screwdriver. Even doing all of that, sometimes the plate fits snuggly and must be pried loose to start.
     
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  16. Jeb Stuart

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    The is a youtube video showing a guy taking down the Kahr and using it. If you cannot find it, I will look later. The Back Plate can be a real Bi***! I do not think Kahr spends much time in making many of there parts very smooth, hence the amount of break in time. After you get the black plate out, be sure and smooth it down with some sand paper and hone the receiver slot down a little. Also you can just use the take down pin instead of the hanger etc.

    Here is a good video. Very clear.

     
  17. usp9

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    I see. Thanks for the video. However, the main benefit by using the ripley retractor is that the spring loaded parts are all held in place and completely off of the rear plate while you work on depressing the extractor pin and moving the plate. It seems the spring would still be pushing on the pegboard hook, making it harder to move the plate. Just my opinion of course. I've done it both ways and found the retractor much easier to use.
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