Question RE: Paperwork for CMP Purchase

[parabolate]

So, a few weeks ago I made a post asking opinions of the M1A vs the M1 Garand:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=5260455#post5260455

I checked out the local monthly gunshow here in San Antonio, TX and it seems like M1A prices are through the roof right now so I am deffinately leaning towards an M1A as my next rifle purchase. I saw some garands at the show but even they were overpriced for the condition they were in.

CMP seems to have the most reasonable offers available. In their paperwork they require that you submit "proof" that you are part of a shooting club or shooting activity of some sort to make you eligible for purchase. I just shoot at a private ranch out in the country. We set up our own targets at our own distances etc. So.....do I have to go sign up for some club or something just to buy from them? lol


Any input from anyone who has bought from CMP appreciated, thanks!

 

[FlyinBryan]

yep, you gotta show proof of a shooting course where you had an instructor.

i use my texas chl.

you also have to be a member of an affiliate club, and be able to show proof, like your membership card.

you also have to show proof of u.s. citizenship.

for this they will accept a passport or birth certificate.

they do not bend the rules on the requirements.

the cmp will be closing at the end of this week and wont be open again till the 4th of april.

 

[parabolate]

So, in order to purchase from them I would have to enroll in an 'official' course of some sort and also join a membership club that I will not actually participate in? I have no reason to pay for either of these services other than to be "eligible" to buy from CMP. Lame.

Overall, seems like a bit of a hassle. It would be nice if I could just send them proper identification etc. w/a check and be done with it as is the case with a standard firearm purchase.

Gonna have to think it over. I would almost rather fork over the extra cash for the M1A then bother with that....

 

[gga357]

Anyone know how long they keep you on file? I bought 2 M1s 5 years ago. Am I still on file for ammo?

 

[FlyinBryan]

ya, it seems like a lot when you put it that way.

for me it was a little easier.

there are really 3 requirements.

1. proof of citizenship.
that one was easy for me, i have my birth certificate, as well as my international passport. (used to travel abroad)

2. the certificate or proof of training.
that one was easy for me too, they accept the training you receive if you have a concealed carry license. all you have to do is show them your license.

3. proof of membership with an affiliate. in my case its my membership in the texas state rifle association. this costs 25 bux and you can do it online. it takes about a week to get your i.d. number.

it seems like a lot, but once your in, its a piece of cake.

then you can order rifles and have them delivered, or even better, go and pick out a rifle, in great shape and test fired, for about half price.

and you can buy 12 a year.

garands are not all they sell either.

you can get the garands, m1 carbines, 1903 springfields, kimber target rifles, krag jorgensons, and a host of others.

 

[MutinousDoug]

So, in order to purchase from them I would have to enroll in an 'official' course of some sort and also join a membership club that I will not actually participate in? I have no reason to pay for either of these services other than to be "eligible" to buy from CMP. Lame.

Overall, seems like a bit of a hassle. It would be nice if I could just send them proper identification etc. w/a check and be done with it as is the case with a standard firearm purchase.

You will have to shoot a sanctioned course of fire and be a member of a CMP affiliate such as your state shooting association in order to purchase from the CMP. The requirements are defined on their website.
Apparently a big hassle and lame, as well. I recommend you buy from a local where you can look over your purchase in person and possess same upon handing over your check. I'm sure you will be happier with that purchase.

 

[FlyinBryan]

You will have to shoot a sanctioned course of fire and be a member of a CMP affiliate such as your state shooting association in order to purchase from the CMP. The requirements are defined on their website.
Apparently a big hassle and lame, as well. I recommend you buy from a local where you can look over your purchase in person and possess same upon handing over your check. I'm sure you will be happier with that purchase.

i couldnt agree more

 

[dscottw88]

I went to the local range and just asked one of the range officers to watch and mark off the checklist essentially showing that I am a competent shooter. As for the club part, I just sent an email to one of the local gun groups (if there isn't one near you, I believe "Garand Owners Club" or something like that is a nationwide affiliated group.) and got my card within a week or two. Get the papers notarized and send em off. I mailed at a good time about a year ago, from the time I sent the paperwork in it only took a couple weeks for the rifle to show up at my door.

 

[barneyrw]

1. A DD214 will sufice for the firearms training course.
2. Since 2005, being a member of the VFW or American Legion, also meets the "affiliated club" requirement.

 

[Deckard]

There is a checklist you can print out posted on the CMP's website that you merely need to bring in to your local range and have filled out by a range official. You just have to prove you know how to handle and fire a rifle safely. Then all you need is membership in a CMP affiliated club (easily gotten with a phone call and $20), birth certificate, and license. Its not that hard and you'll be hard pressed to find prices on Garands even close to the CMP at dealers or shows.

 

[Sheldon]

Anyone know how long they keep you on file? I bought 2 M1s 5 years ago. Am I still on file for ammo?
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If it's been 5 years you will have to get another notary to sign the notary form (it will be good for 3 years). Subsequent orders for the next 3 years will only require your hard signature on the notary form, which still needs to be sent in with future orders. Your club membership has to be current too, but that's about it.

 

[EMT40SW]

Just go shoot any kind of match at a local range or club. It will be worth the effort. You could also get your FFL type 3 Curio/relic for $30 (3 years) or get your CCW.
Joining the Garand collector society seems to be the way most do it without any of the above. By the way I got a rack grade Inland M1 carbine & a service grade H&R M1 Garand last year. Both were a great deal at $1060 total for both delivered, but the M1 Carbine turned out to be a better deal. Go figure, it really is luck of the draw.

 

[Sheldon]

While I have gotten a couple Garands and 1903A3's, the rimfire rifles have been my favorites. Remington 40X's, Winchester 52D's, H&R M12's, Remington 513T's, and a Kimber 82G!! I really like the rimfire stuff now that ammo prices have gone so high.

 

[chrissmallwood]

Parabolate-So, in order to purchase from them I would have to enroll in an 'official' course of some sort and also join a membership club that I will not actually participate in? I have no reason to pay for either of these services other than to be "eligible" to buy from CMP. Lame.

It may be lame but the CMP will ship the rifle right to your house and you dont have to go through a FFL so they probably have to go to those extra lengths to be able to do so. And once you've filled out the required paperwork you dont have to do it again for 3 yrs. Just order a rifle and it comes to your house. I wish you could do it that way for some of the online dealers.

 

[MrFox]

Marksmanship or other Firearms Related Activity:
You must provide proof of participation in a marksmanship related activity or otherwise show familiarity with the safe handling of firearms and range procedures. Your marksmanship related activity does not have to be with highpower rifles; it can be with smallbore rifles, pistols, air guns or shotguns. Proof of marksmanship participation can be provided by documenting any of the following:

- Current or past military service.
- Current or past law enforcement service
- Participation in a rifle, pistol, air gun or shotgun competition (provide copy of results bulletin).
- Completion of a marksmanship clinic that included live fire training (provide a copy of the certificate of completion or a statement from the instructor).
- Distinguished, Instructor, or Coach status.
- Concealed Carry License.
- Firearms Owner Identification Cards that included live fire training.
- FFL or C&R license.
- Completion of a Hunter Safety Course that included live fire training.
- Certification from range or club official or law enforcement officer witnessing shooting activity. A form for use in completing and certifying your range firing can be downloaded from the CMP web site at http://www.odcmp.com/forms/marksmanship.pdf

No proof of marksmanship required if over age 60. proof of club membership and citizenship required for all ages.
NOTE: Proof of marksmanship activity is not required for purchase of ammunition, parts, publications or memorabilia.



From the CMP website.

http://www.odcmp.com/

 

[jjadkins1]

sheldon CMP Question

Sheldon I think they keep you on file for one year from your last purchase.