Questions about new 1858

Return it and get either a new gun, or a refund - this revolver is no good and doesn't worth the efforts to repair it. I've had very positive experience with westernguns.fr in the past - purchased several revolvers from them, never a problem and they check the guns before sending them.

The gun come form them, I assume that your gap is the same across the left and right?
I'm going to send back it to seller not Pietta.
 
Well, this is rather disappointing... But I think that if you get a new Pietta it will be OK - usually, they are pretty consistent with the quality. You can insist for them to check it more thoroughly - after all, they are the ones that left a subpar product to exit their doors...
 
Watching the electric bill go up while I sit here and ratchet jaw is my job. :p There are some good American workers that do care about quality but there's a lot more, especially union workers that don't care. I've seen enough of the latter to make me sick. Have eve worked with union workers that won't even check something. They just run it out the door and say stuff like if it's bad it will come back and yes we had a lot of returns.

I agree there is a percentage of workers who take no pride in their work or quality.
It is regrettable that in your personal experience this was a majority or predominantly union workers.
In my experience guys that work with their hands in the trades do so because they enjoy working hard, getting something accomplished and take pride in what they do at the end of the day.
(My experience is 45 years working both union and non union as a carpenter)
To bash the majority of union workers as not caring is not fair and prejudicial to lumping all those in any group as not caring whether it is all old people, all young people, all educated, or non educated, or any and all ethnic or religious groups.
(just my 2 cents)
Unions are far from perfect and I have seen plenty of their members that do a dis-service to their chosen field, but if you’ve worked for a wage you have them to thank for your benefits and protections.
I apologize if I am being defensive, but I would prefer to acknowledge the hard work we can all do working together to make things better, than complain about “the other guy”

No need to post examples of worthless union work - I’ve got plenty I can cite of both - just try to remember like Paul Harvey used to say that there is, “The rest of the story”.
 
Hey,

After a long wait i've finally got another copy of a Pietta 1858, this time the gun have a better finish like not stains on frame and damaged screw head.

but the same disproportion about the barrel gap, very tight on right side 0.004 and left 0.007.

You think Pietta do this for a reason or this is just bad manufacturing?
 
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Sounds a bit off, the only way I can think of to fix it involves removing the barrel, squaring it up and reinstalling it.
 
Hey,

After a long wait i've finally got another copy of a Pietta 1858, this time the gun have a better finish like not stains on frame and damaged screw head.

but the same disproportion about the barrel gap, very tight on right side 0.004 and left 0.007.

You think Pietta do this for a reason or this is just bad manufacturing?
Not normal and the tight side, .004” is too loose for me. .002” is much better. A gunsmith could set the barrel back one turn, square the barrel stub and recut the forcing cone and you’d have a MUCH improved revolver.
 
I See i suppose that this type of poorly made Pietta gun are not common in USA right?
 
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No, this is pretty common. The entry-level Italian repro revolvers are made to a price point that does not allow great care in manufacturing. If you want a match-grade firearm, the Pietta Shooter's Model and the Pedersoli are my recommendations. Unless you can get your hands on one of the Hege revolvers made by Feinwerkbau (good luck).
 
No, this is pretty common. The entry-level Italian repro revolvers are made to a price point that does not allow great care in manufacturing. If you want a match-grade firearm, the Pietta Shooter's Model and the Pedersoli are my recommendations. Unless you can get your hands on one of the Hege revolvers made by Feinwerkbau (good luck).

No they're not match grade but that's not normal.
 
No, this is pretty common. The entry-level Italian repro revolvers are made to a price point that does not allow great care in manufacturing. If you want a match-grade firearm, the Pietta Shooter's Model and the Pedersoli are my recommendations. Unless you can get your hands on one of the Hege revolvers made by Feinwerkbau (good luck).

I don't very agree with this argument, cause the price doubled since 1/2 years. i don't ask for a match grade but at least something without mechanical default.
 
Not normal and the tight side, .004” is too loose for me. .002” is much better. A gunsmith could set the barrel back one turn, square the barrel stub and recut the forcing cone and you’d have a MUCH improved revolver.
I don't think that the gun shop where i bought it will do this, as for them it's completely normal to have different gap right and left.

Also I had to wait quite long to get a gun with a max 0.007 barrel gap. So i don't think that they have very tight gun like .002 - .004
 
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I've never ran feeler gauges in any of my BP revolvers or for that matter, 20+ center fire revolvers.
I'd shoot it as is with BP, cap, and ball. If you are going trade it in, again, get a Pietta Colt 1860 Army revolver.
 
Seems like there's always something a little off with these replicas. I mostly see timing issues with Remington such as having a short hand or way late bolt drop. Barrel/cylinder gap is harder to correct on them and is a lot more involved. I rarely have Remmies come across my bench. The Colt platform is a little easier to work with and to get a good tune, for me anyway. My bench is clear for now if anyone's interested in getting some work done.
 
I just checked my Pietta 1858 Remington which was made in 2020 and the barrel/cylinder gap measures .004 all around.
 
Mine is a Pietta with a .45C Kirst gated conversion. Cyl pulled back = .0035" (total)
Cyl forward = .001" (gap) ( .0015" leaf drags but can see light)
Gives .0025" endshake.
It's quite accurate.
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Mike
 
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