Questions about the Sig P250 and finding an out of production gun.

[Kaybee]

I'm on the search for a Sig p250 Sub Compact DAO in 380. Seems they are out of production. Besides gunbroker any advice on finding an out of production pistol? Is there anything I should worry about?

Also, if anyone has any thoughts on the p250 besides the DA trigger I would love to hear about it.

 

[JeeperCreeper]

I love mine. Such a stupid simple design it's brilliant. But if you master the trigger, it's an extremely accurate handgun.

Anyways, I would call all your local shops. Just type it in Google and call all the shops in a 50 mile radius. I've gotten lucky with one of my local shops that is a "small town" shop with a big supply that always has more "in the back".

The Sig 250 was a good gun, just not popular due to the DAO trigger. So you might get lucky with some new-old-stock since it was only out of production in the last year or so.

 

[cc-hangfire]

I’m addicted to the P250 & have several living in 9mm configurations (full, compact, subcompact) with one each .40s&w & .45acp conversion sets in the gun closet. The modular design is the future (kinda like the AR15, huh?)

The trigger pull isn’t substantially different than the much-praised Kahr’s I have. And they weren’t very expensive since the general gun community hates them.

I’ve looked on gunbroker for a couple of years for the .380 unicorns. When I’ve seen them, they have either been out of my price range or for LEO’s only (back when they were still on production). Good luck on your quest!

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Try Armslist? I had a 9mm G1 two-tone compact. It was the only plastic gun Ive ever (likely will ever) own. It was a nice gun. Didn't mind the trigger at all- you can stage it just before the break, so accurate shots were no problem.
Magazines are a problem for all P250/320 type guns because there were so many variants. When you can find spare mags they are crazy expensive. The baseplate on the Gen 1compact magazine are unique to that grip frame as well, but Ive been told you can cut down the G2 baseplates in a pinch.
Never had any mechanical problems with it. I liked the fact that it was hammer fired. My daughter liked it so well she bought the .380 compact (which is more like a smallish full-size). She absolutely loves it, its her purse gun.
It was my nightstand gun for a bit, but I sold it to my buddy when a minty S&W 6903 came along.
If he ever needs quick cash, I would buy it back though......

 

[Kaybee]

I will try armslist, thank you!

I did notice that the p250 was listed on sig sauer's web site still, but under the "armed professional" section. Is there anything special about the guns in that section that they can't sell them to the public?

https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p250-nitron-sub-compact-ap.html

 

[cc-hangfire]

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Magazines are a problem for all P250/320 type guns because there were so many variants. When you can find spare mags they are crazy expensive...

Agreed. I expect that — since the P320 mags are identical (as are the grip frames) — the supply for 9mm and .40s&w mags will get better & cheaper with US military adoption of their variant of the P320.
Mags for .380acp will still be scarce and pricey though.

 

[gc70]

I'm on the search for a Sig p250 Sub Compact DAO in 380. Seems they are out of production. Besides gunbroker any advice on finding an out of production pistol? Is there anything I should worry about?

Also, if anyone has any thoughts on the p250 besides the DA trigger I would love to hear about it.

The P250 in 380 was made in small numbers for a short time. The 380 was sold in compact and subcompact versions, both of which used a subcompact barrel and slide.

The subcompact uses a standard subcompact grip module and 12-round magazine. The compact came with a factory-modified compact grip module that was cut back in length to match the subcompact slide and held a 15-round magazine. If you buy a compact, you can buy a regular subcompact grip module later. However, if you buy a subcompact, you would probably have to make your own compact grip module, as I think SIG never sold a factory-reduced compact grip module separately.

The P250 is a locked-breech 380. The recoil spring is very, very light and the slide is ridiculously easy to rack. I can hold the slide with two fingers and easily rack the slide by pushing on the back of the grip module with one finger. As a mid-size gun in 380, the P250's recoil feels much closer to a .22LR than a 9mm.

SIG has 15-round magazines for $44.00 and 12-round magazines have been on sale for $8.99 for months.

Below is a comparison of a 9mm Compact to a 380 Compact.

 

[Kaybee]

gc70, Thank you, that is really helpful info! That is really good news about the racking and recoil, that is what I hoped.

 

[Hokkmike]

I'm on the search for a Sig p250 Sub Compact DAO in 380. Seems they are out of production. Besides gunbroker any advice on finding an out of production pistol? Is there anything I should worry about?

Also, if anyone has any thoughts on the p250 besides the DA trigger I would love to hear about it.

Yes, I'll share my "learning" about the P-250 trigger. As you know it is a long pull, but smooth. Treat it as if you would a 2 stage trigger when firing and see accuracy improve. Pull the trigger back to near the breaking point, finalize your aim, and fire! Accuracy is improved a lot. Do this constantly and it becomes a habit and will not slow down your rate of fire. I would not hesitate to buy a P-250 in the least. The only problem with the .380 is that even the subcompact is large for a .380. Many people reason that for a pistol that large you may as well use a 9mm. Hence, I believe, part of the reason for their lack of popularity. One of the great reasons to use one is that the slide is among the easiest of all semi's to rack - even with weak or injured wrists. I sold mine to an individual with severe carpel tunnel and wrist problems. (I do miss it) he loves the gun and said that it is the only pistol he can manipulate easily. It is an accurate, reliable, and good looking gun in my opinion, To answer your last question, I don't believe there is anything you should worry about.

 

[gc70]

Thoughts on the P250 trigger:

Staging the trigger by pulling it to a point just short of breaking and then adjusting aim before the final pull is a very effective way to increase accuracy. However, my use of a P250 is purely as a defensive pistol. I do not use staging because I do not want to train to create a pause in the process of firing every shot. Aiming a pistol and then pulling the trigger straight through until it fires requires more trigger control -and takes more training- but it is worth it to me for defensive use.

 

[Hokkmike]

Thoughts on the P250 trigger:

Staging the trigger by pulling it to a point just short of breaking and then adjusting aim before the final pull is a very effective way to increase accuracy. However, my use of a P250 is purely as a defensive pistol. I do not use staging because I do not want to train to create a pause in the process of firing every shot. Aiming a pistol and then pulling the trigger straight through until it fires requires more trigger control -and takes more training- but it is worth it to me for defensive use.

We are not talking a pause that is likely measurable...after practice of course.

 

[Kaybee]

Large for a 380 is my exact interest in that gun. Looking for a very reliable and shootable compact gun with very very light recoil and very easy to rack. I know that's a niche and not completely mainstream but it cant be *that* uncommon of a need. I think bet there are a lot of people out there looking for that niche. I wish they didn't give up on that gun so soon.

Man, I tried those mouseguns 380s, I think they are a fad. Eventually, people are going to realize that the ability to easily practice with your carry gun, and having accuracy and good follow up shots all count for something.

The only problem with the .380 is that even the subcompact is large for a .380.

 

[Hokkmike]

Large for a 380 is my exact interest in that gun. Looking for a very reliable and shootable compact gun with very very light recoil and very easy to rack. I know that's a niche and not completely mainstream but it cant be *that* uncommon of a need. I think bet there are a lot of people out there looking for that niche. I wish they didn't give up on that gun so soon.

Man, I tried those mouseguns 380s, I think they are a fad. Eventually, people are going to realize that the ability to easily practice with your carry gun, and having accuracy and good follow up shots all count for something.

I hear you. Have you tried the Clock 42? Not any noticeable recoil there!