Quick aiming shotgun...

[Big_Bullet]

I recently posted my first post here asking a legitimate question. Everyone has a first post. I've been hunting since I was ten years old. We had a bunch of friends over last weekend for some target shooting. All responsible adults. We do this regularly. We had a clay shoot as part of our time. My PGO shotgun was the only shotgun I had up on the hill, so I figured, I'll give it a try. I didn't miss one clay, even out to twenty yards. So, being new here on this forum, I asked a simple question with no question specific answers given back to me, but I was assumed to be a troll, maybe a mister cool dude who thinks he's something with his cool dude PGO shotgun. I was told that it might not be gentlemanly to shoot birds with a PGO. Many things were assumed about me that aren't true. I had shoulder issues in the military. I exercise my shoulders five days a week to keep the pain away, and have had success this way for years. Shooting a shoulder mounted shotgun is hard for me. Shooting a PGO shotgun is easy for me. I simply wanted to know if anyone else has tried to hunt birds with a PGO shogun, and the moderator does everyone a favor by closing the thread. Can someone explain to me what is sinful about my shotgun? I have no bruises when I shoot my shotgun because it isn't touching my wimpy shoulder. Why is this a bad thing? Are you all watching to many movies or something? Is this a pro gun forum or are there certain guns that are not alowed to be discussed. I read the rules and didn't see anything about certain guns not being allowed. This is a legal shotgun. Please help me out here, or just boot me out altogether.

Fair enough?

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[Big_Bullet]

Anyone?

Hello?

 

[TurtlePhish]

Hey! Sorry about your other thread. I saw that you didn't get the nicest welcome to THR. We've had troll issues here in the past.

PGO shotguns are kind of looked down upon here on account of their "mall ninja" connotation, but it sounds like you can handle one quite well. If you feel confident in your ability to use it and you can repeatably hit targets like you say, try hunting with it. Just remember ethics- if you doubt yourself or your equipment at all, don't risk injuring game and have it escape.

Welcome to THR! I promise we're all a lot nicer than we appeared.
Seriously, you'll enjoy it here once you get to know everyone.

 

[Big_Bullet]

No problem...

I'd like to get to know you all, if given a chance. Would still like to know if anyone has tried this. The barrel I have coming is 24" with a modified choke installed. I've fired several hundred thousand pistol rounds and am exremely proficient with handguns. My brain sees this PGO shotgun as a handgun, and it works extremely well for me. Surely someone here has given this a try on pheasants.

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[rcmodel]

The only experience I have had with a handicapped shooter like yourself was with a young man in a wheel-chair.

I and some friends pushed him all over western Kansas every year in his chair so he could block fields and get a pheasant or three.
And the wet muddy years, that took some real doing!

But he used a Winchester Model 12 with a stock, and was deadly with it.

I have never in 68 years seen anyone hunting anything with a pistol grip shotgun.

Not saying it is right or wrong.
Although as a former hunter safety instructor, safe muzzle control if you slip and fall would be one of my major concerns, as I mentioned in the other thread.

But I can't help you by siteing any real world experience with anyone I know ever doing it..

rc

 

[PBR Streetgang]

You might want to ask what your state laws are on using a PGO shotgun for hunting. Some states define a shotgun as a shoulder fired weapon. You could possibly be breaking the law if hunting with it.

 

[Bhi curamach]

Cant speak on your original post as I never saw it.
However I can comment on pistol grip shotguns.
I don't hunt much firstly, public lands near me are often hazardous.
I have though and as oportunitys arise that meet my odd requirements I sometimes do.
Ive NEVER enjoyed traditional long arm grip design. It feels weird to me.
I'm in the minority to be sure but its the truth.
I'm pointing a projectile launching tube at something and you want me to bend my hand/wtist to accommodate it?
Sure, if no other option exists....
But wait, there are large groups of armed trained men who utilize projectile launching tubes to end organic processes in lifeforms using tubes with grips angling away from the main tube.
Sounds a bit like hunting but with hopefully far less consumption of downed lifeforms.
Not a lot of uncomfortable straight gripped stocks being issued these days any more.
I'm overly simplifying things of course and this is entirely subjective to my personal opinion.
An utterly moronic one possibly but hey, its the only one Ive got so I try and gimp along as best as possible....
I like a seperate grip from the stock. Feels better and I believe it reacts better, points at things better, etc.
That's me though and as I said I'm sure I'm in the minority. Oh well.
As far as your less than cordial response, its an Internet forum. Its bound to happen even here. I'm a fairly new poster myself though long time reader and I believe this to be one of the better gun forums out there. Mostly.
Wecome!
Oops, somehow missed the ONLY part of PGO.
Not my bag sir, I like the stock/grip combo... as long as its legal where you do what you do though, enjoy it!!!!

 

[MyGreenGuns]

Many new members start by posting in existing threads. The fact that you started a thread with your initial post and then did not respond in the first 24 hours got you flagged as a troll.

I get a lot of flak about my weapon choices, but they work for me so everyone else can go *PFFFT*. If you are well practiced with it, use it.

I personally do not like PGO shotguns, but I do not have a shoulder injury.

The legality of that setup might be an issue. Seriously, look into that.

 

[Hunterdad]

Maybe you should have mentioned your shoulder problems in your original post? You asked for opinions and that's exactly what you got.

Like I stated in your original post, its a free world, you can do whatever you want. If a PGO shotgun works for you, that's great! The more people in the field, regardless of weapons choice is a win in my book.

 

[rbernie]

If you're using a public forum on the Internet to affirm or gain approval for your decisions, well, let's just say that you're not likely to find joy in that.

Good luck in your pursuits. Really.

But don't expect that most folk will approve or have experience with hunting with PGO shotguns, because they're simply not commonly used that way.

For a reason.

 

[Pete D.]

Big B: Hopefully, you will find this thread a warmer welcome. You seem to be very earnest.

I didn't miss one clay, even out to twenty yards

I would like to have seen that. I don't mean that in any spirit of disbelief. I have never seen anyone try clays with a PGO.....it would have made me smile and I might have learned something.
I have a 20 ga. Howdah pistol. I have wondered about taking it afield during Upland season, just to see. I haven't yet tried it on clays; perhaps I should.
Pete

 

[oneounceload]

In over 35 years of bird hunting I have never seen anyone use a PGO either. I have torn cartilage in my shooting shoulder - I minimize issues by using a heavy gun with light loads. Add in a gas action and the recoil is soft enough I can shoot 200 rounds of sporting clays with no pain

BTW, your current title seems a bit misleading

 

[rszwieg]

I have a relative who had shoulder surgery and used a shoulder stock with a pistol grip on his 870. You may want to try that setup.

Personally I can't hit a darn thing with a PGO shotgun.

 

[Dave McCracken]

PGO shotguns and their fans are not terribly well regarded here. For the most part, PGOs are of limited capability outside of movies and video games.

However, your case is different from Wannabees and Halo gamers.

I've never seen anyone hunt with a PGO. I have hunted with a guy who had lost his right hand and forearm. He used a single shot held one handed shot from his left shoulder and did OK.

You say you did well out to 20 yards. That's commendable. However, most of the birds I've shot were well past that, typically 25-35 yards.

As I see it, there's a few options to consider.

One, forget the whole thing. Not recommended.

Two, practice until you can hit clays at 25-35 yards most of the time with your PGO. I regard this as possible, but requiring LOTS of practice.

As ethical hunters, we only take shots with a high expectancy of effect. We do not want creatures to suffer on.

Three, shoot from the uninjured shoulder. You may have to make some adjustments, possibly closing the dominant eye, but this may be your best option.

Four, shotguns come in lots of flavors and power levels. A soft kicking gas action auto in 28 gauge or even 20 may not stir up your injury like a 12 gauge pump will. Hit the range and try out some different guns.

Hope this helps...

 

[Black Knight]

I am not going to say anything bad about your PGO shotgun that is your choice and it works for you. I will ask if you have considered the Knox Stock? It is a recoil reducing stock that I tried at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center a few years ago. We were firing 25-30 rounds of full power Buckshot loads each session. I was very impressed by it. Normally 10 rounds is about it for me but with the Knox Stock I could keep going. They have several varieties available so you may want to google them. You say you were in the military so I would like to thank you for your service. You have my respect. I hope this info is helpful. Take care and stay safe.