Quick Question: Easy way to separate SPP & LPP .45 brass?

[Mark_Mark]

Anybody got a solution? they look very similar by eyes

 

[CQB45ACP]

Anybody got a solution? they look very similar by eyes

Can be eye numbing.

Assuming you mean sorting by hand.

If so, put a small or large (not both) in front of you that you can quickly glance to as you pick up and look at the others.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Can be eye numbing.

Assuming you mean sorting by hand.

If so, put a small or large (not both) in front of you that you can quickly glance to as you pick up and look at the others.

smart!!!

Same with the cases with the primers pops out? small case next to large case!

 

[Charlie98]

If you size them on a single-stage press, come in behind that process and tap them all with a LP go-nogo gauge... that should ID the SP brass pretty handily without straining the old eyeballs too much.

 

[Mark_Mark]

If you size them on a single-stage press, come in behind that process and tap them all with a LP go-nogo gauge... that should ID the SP brass pretty handily without straining the old eyeballs too much.

I was thinking about sizing then gauging with a drill bit go/noGo

 

[Varminterror]

Automated vision or plunger based systems are pretty slick, and ridiculously fast.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Automated vision or plunger based systems are pretty slick, and ridiculously fast.

what do those cost!!

 

[Varminterror]

what do those cost!!

Depends what kind of toys you already have in your garage.

 

[Charlie98]

I was thinking about sizing then gauging with a drill bit go/noGo

Necessity is the mother of invention... sounds good to me, and probably easier to handle than a tiny little pocket gauge. Carrying Varmit's idea a bit further... stick the drill bit in a block of wood or other stationary place, and you would just have to handle the brass as it comes off the press.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Depends what kind of toys you already have in your garage.

A busted up Prius!

 

[Laphroaig]

If you're doing LPP on a progressive, just run everything and curse when a primer won't seat. Take the offender out and throw it where ever you put them. Mine go in the scrap bucket along with the S&B which are almost as bad.

 

[Mark_Mark]

If you're doing LPP on a progressive, just run everything and curse when a primer won't seat. Take the offender out and throw it where ever you put them. Mine go in the scrap bucket along with the S&B which are almost as bad.

S&B brass! the other curse!

I’m saving my LPP for something else, trying to use up my SPP .45 brass right now

 

[CQB45ACP]

I’m sure there are automated ways to separate but how many are you dealing with and how often?

Anyway, try the manual method first—was used to successfully catch counterfeiters for decades—and gives another opportunity to spot defective cases.

All this is unless you like spending dough and my guess is not given the POS you drive. (You know I’m kidding)

 

[anothernewb]

Some sort of gauge seems to be the simple solution - If you pick up a lot of range leavings - mark the brass you've already checked so that at least the first run through is the only long one.

the 650 sorts them pretty easily. stops the priming arm right now. but the small primer cases are still pretty rare in my area. think I might have a box of 50 after the last several years. So far blazer and federal NT are the only ones I've seen that are small primer. so I sort by headstamp whenever I get floor sweepings.

 

[Mark_Mark]

I’m sure there are automated ways to separate but how many are you dealing with and how often?

Anyway, try the manual method first—was used to successfully catch counterfeiters for decades—and gives another opportunity to spot defective cases.

All this is unless you like spending dough and my guess is not given the POS you drive. (You know I’m kidding)

drive one and you will buy one!!!

was thinking of a simple go/noGo 3D printer case gauge. Kidda like a case tray but with a pin that’s the size of a LPP. All cases that are up would be a SPP because they wouldn’t do down

 

[Mark_Mark]

Some sort of gauge seems to be the simple solution - If you pick up a lot of range leavings - mark the brass you've already checked so that at least the first run through is the only long one.

the 650 sorts them pretty easily. stops the priming arm right now. but the small primer cases are still pretty rare in my area. think I might have a box of 50 after the last several years. So far blazer and federal NT are the only ones I've seen that are small primer. so I sort by headstamp whenever I get floor sweepings.

Mark brass! a little nail polish, great idea

 

[CQB45ACP]

drive one and you will buy one!!!

was thinking of a simple go/noGo 3D printer case gauge. Kidda like a case tray but with a pin that’s the size of a LPP. All cases that are up would be a SPP because they wouldn’t do down

Buy one? Hah! They’ll soon be mandatory govt issue.

Is this how you plan to separate eggs too? You know jumbo from large from xtra large from quail?

 

[Bill M]

I have a large and small case on the table, can easily see the difference when sorting. I do mark the SP with red marker to make sorting faster next time.
Like it or not, small primers are here to stay, as there is no reason for large pistol primers, notice also the new rifle cases like the 6.5mm Creedmor that will be large or small!

 

[mcb]

Install the large primer setter on a progressive press (this works with a Dillon XL 650 maybe others). Load no primers and just the sizing die. Feed the mixed cases through the case feeder. First station sizes and deprimes and at the second station where the primer is seated the handle with go noticeable further forward when the seating post goes into the empty larger pocket. It will stop short when it encounter a small pocket. Since small pockets are more rare I take the small off the press manually at the third location and let the large go around to exit the press as normal. Now separated, set up the press and load as normal.

 

[1KPerDay]

On the LCT it’s easy to feel when sizing/decapping/priming and it doesn’t go in. A few curse words toward the person that started this abomination and his mother, and toss the SPP into a bucket to be loaded separately for lost brass matches.

SPP .45 brass was forged in the bowels of hell by beelzebub himself

 

[Bill M]

We have a couple of groups that don't bother with brass during the shoot, and to save the enviroment, I try to pick a lot of it up! I find most, (more than half), of the 45's are now small primer!

 

[Varminterror]

I suppose a Lee APP with a Swaging kit would be a cheap and fast, automated process for finding smalls quickly.

The tray thing could work, but I absolutely despise racking brass... Case handling is one of the worst time burning processes I have in my life, and I do almost anything to reduce it whenever I can.

 

[.45Coltguy]

As a couple others have mentioned, mark the cases with a sharpie and the process goes much faster next time.

 

[doubleh]

I don't reload enough 45 ACP to bother with anything but looking at them and my eyes can easily see the difference. It isn't a fast process but fast is about beyond me now so everything works out OK.

 

[Kaldor]

If you have children. make them sort them!

I still find one time to time, but as long as I dont try to ram a large primer into a small primer hole, I can easily pull the case from my LnL and put it in the eff it bucket