R&D of "No Shake" Lee Super Tray

[LiveLife]

Remember this "No Shake" R&D primer tray thread when we had primer feeding issue down from primer tray on early production release of Six Pack Pro/Pro 6000 kit? (Which was addressed with larger agitator pin in new primer attachment chute/trough) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...s-no-pin-no-shake-primer-feed-options.913724/

During multiple brainstorming and fabricating various contraptions to reliably feed primers, I went back to basics and started with most reliable feed mechanism of "No Shake" single column primer device which obviously fed reliably. (BTW, Dillon/Hornady press mounted and many bench mounted priming devices use single column primer feed without the need for "shake")

"Extension tube 10" long held over 50 Winchester LP primers ... This is how it looks inserted into the primer chute/trough and of course, it was 100% reliable without any concern of pin making sufficient contact with frame column/groove rings (I removed the pin for testing as it was not needed). With an adapter at the top to accommodate Lee primer tray, you could refill the chute/trough extension rather quickly."​

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So I thought, "How can I make this single column feed practical with a tray of 100 primers?" and came up with this multi-column device that could use a "gate" to switch between columns. (BTW, 3-column primer feed device was about 7.5" long and could accommodate primer tray of 100 primers)

 

[LiveLife]

So I seed this "No Shake" product development idea to Calvin/Lee Precision on reliability of single column primer feed without the need for "shaking the tray" with suggestion of square flip tray to work with square factory trays for consideration (I was thinking of adding an adapter to top of 3 column device for square primer tray).

And the Super Tray came to production, single column primer feed device with square primer flip tray. Once the single column trough is filled with primers, tray does not need the "shake" to feed the primers.

Loading primers from factory tray and filling the single column trough with light tapping.

Super Tray in Six Pack Pro

https://leeprecision.com/super-tray

www.youtube.com

"No shake" feeding of single column of primers on Bench Prime

Auto Bench Prime with Super Tray

https://leeprecision.com/super-tray

www.youtube.com

 

[GW Staar]

Looks promising!.....when?

 

[LiveLife]

Looks promising!.....when?

No word yet ... I just sent an inquiry email to Calvin of anticipated market time.

 

[Bill M]

I'll try one!
I would like to try yours though!

 

[LiveLife]

I would like to try yours though!

I think my DIY version was discarded after new primer attachment with larger pin was released.

 

[GW Staar]

I spent a lot of time trying to make primer feeding better....and I have.....but part of my problem was caused by other mods like the "lights and video camera" mods which made me have to offset the tray. But it's not something the rest of the community would be interested in......heck....I even made it "shake" more. But I would chuck it all if this works and come up with another way to make my lights and camera. So this is indeed interesting.

I do think the the Six Pack is way worth the effort.....the second Lee press I feel great about...APP being the first one.

 

[Bill M]

I have a replacement tray from Lee, that has the same size pin as the one I had, haven't loaded anything yet to see if it works better!

 

[Walkalong]

So I seed this "No Shake" product development idea to Calvin/Lee Precision on reliability of single column primer feed without the need for "shaking the tray" with suggestion of square flip tray to work with square factory trays for consideration (I was thinking of adding an adapter to top of 3 column device for square primer tray).

And the Super Tray came to production, single column primer feed device with square primer flip tray. Once the single column trough is filled with primers, tray does not need the "shake" to feed the primers.

Loading primers from factory tray and filling the single column trough with light tapping.

Super Tray in Six Pack Pro

https://leeprecision.com/super-tray

www.youtube.com

"No shake" feeding of single column of primers on Bench Prime

Auto Bench Prime with Super Tray

https://leeprecision.com/super-tray

www.youtube.com

Well that is just cool beans!

 

[LiveLife]

Looks promising!.....when?

sent an inquiry email to Calvin of anticipated market time.

And they are available - https://leeprecision.com/super-tray

 

[curlysir]

And they are available - https://leeprecision.com/super-tray

Was going to order a couple, but shipping would be $16.50 for 2. Will wait until I need some more stuff.

 

[LiveLife]

Was going to order a couple, but shipping would be $16.50 for 2. Will wait until I need some more stuff.

$10 is MSRP and usually retails for around 30% less by vendors like Titan Reloading.

 

[curlysir]

$10 is MSRP and usually retails for around 30% less by vendors like Titan Reloading.

Yes, I had them my cart to check Shipping. Hopefully it will be available from Titan soon. I just placed an order today with Titan and Shipping was only $6.75.

 

[GW Staar]

I needed more stuff that I've been adding to the cart....so at least it's past the free shipping mark so the super tray is now ordered along with several other Six Pack parts.

Now for the next bug I wish for livelife to put in Lee's ear is to encourage them to try a "windowed" pistol bullet seater! Then find out how cool it could be to have such a thing and their inline bullet feeders coupled together like I did for rifle calibers........in effect turning their 6 station wonder into a 7 station wonder with very little added expense. Then Lee could make an injected plastic or even aluminum coupler to replace my 3d printed ones. If they can't or don't want to spend the time on developing one...my design is donated to the cause gratis.

I have .223 and .308 versions that work fantastic, and soon to have a .243 version.....would love to be able to do that with pistol calibers, but not possible without windowed seaters and I doubt plastic is a good material to do that with.

 

[9mmepiphany]

encourage them to try a "windowed" pistol bullet seater! Then find out how cool it could be to have such a thing and their inline bullet feeders coupled together like I did for rifle calibers........in effect turning their 6 station wonder into a 7 station wonder with very little added expence.

I'd buy one in a heartbeat, then I can start decapping and sizing in two separate stations...Yes, I know I'm a little off

 

[stormshrike]

And they are available - https://leeprecision.com/super-tray

The website description says "Use with Auto Bench Prime, Pro 1000, Pro 4000 | Auto Breech Lock Pro, and Six Pack Pro presses."

Will it work with the new APP Deluxe? Looks like it will, but it's curious the APP is not mentioned.

 

[jmorris]

would love to be able to do that with pistol calibers, but not possible without windowed seaters

There used to be one advertised in Front Sight (USPSA magazine) into the early 2000's. Never got to play with one though.

 

[LiveLife]

... next bug I wish for livelife to put in Lee's ear is to encourage them to try a "windowed" pistol bullet seater!

The website description says "Use with Auto Bench Prime, Pro 1000, Pro 4000 | Auto Breech Lock Pro, and Six Pack Pro presses."

Will it work with the new APP Deluxe? Looks like it will, but it's curious the APP is not mentioned.

Email sent out to Calvin.

 

[jmorris]

If he sends you a link to these,

Lee Precision, Inc.. Bullet Feed Kit

The bullet feeder designed to directly fit the Pro 1000 and Load-Master. Automatically feeds bullets into the mouth of the seating die. Align bullets more accurately than possible by hand. Increases the cyclic rate 50 to 100%.

leeprecision.com

ask him if they can make the fingers out off something that can be adjusted for tension and hold the setting for more than a couple hundred bullets. It would be a popular product, if they could make them reliable.

 

[LiveLife]

ask him if they can make the fingers out off something that can be adjusted for tension and hold the setting for more than a couple hundred bullets. It would be a popular product, if they could make them reliable.

Email sent to Calvin.

 

[GW Staar]

A feed and seat coupler would be even more useful to lee's 4 holer and everybody's 5 holers.

 

[tightgroup tiger]

A feed and seat coupler would be even more useful to lee's 4 holer and everybody's 5 holers.

It sure would be. I could actually run every thing through my ABLP in one pass with one of those.

 

[Gillie Dog]

I am a little skeptical. Look at the bench prime video. Second layer of primers does not move down as case priming happens. And installed on the SPP 6000 the pin is still in place on the primer trough and they tap it to get primers to flow. Does not appear to flow primers by gravity in their sales videos.

Maybe mounted vertically it could be better. Someone will have to work on a 3D printed trough for SPP 6000 which has vertical mount or close to it to test with. Only real world testing will tell.

If it works I will get some for sure. Preload a hand full of them and go to town with progressive loading with one less thing to worry about.

GD

 

[GW Staar]

It sure would be. I could actually o ne every thing through my ABLP in one pass with one of those.

The purple part that pushes the pusher by being fastened to the sub-shell plate to go up with it towards the coupler, has to be designed different for every press. I only have a 6-pack. But then Lee has access to all of them.

 

[GW Staar]

I am a little skeptical. Look at the bench prime video. Second layer of primers does not move down as case priming happens.

Maybe mounted vertically it could be better. Someone will have to work on a 3D printed trough for SPP 6000 which has vertical mount or close to it to test with. Only real world testing will tell.

If it works I will get some for sure. Preload a hand full of them and go to town with progressive loading with one less thing to worry about.

GD

I got one on the way.......we will soon see.....and I've done several mod attempts of a printed trough already.....what's one more.....