Ranch Rifle and M1 Carbine Rear Sight

[kBob]

OKAY. I give up.

I have searched and searched for an article that I downloaded on an older computer that went toes up.

The guy took a M1 Carbine rear sight and USING HAND TOOLS ONLY, made it fit a ruger ranch rifle. My understanding is that he had to remove a bit of front sight to get things to work right but no big deal there.

Yes, I know Tech Sights makes a kit.....I like tech sights and have a set on my Ruger 10/22 LTR. Just want to see if I remember the Carbine sight project correctly.

Anyone know where I can find DIY info on that?

I seem to recall that the article I had used a file to shorten the front reverse dove tail on the sight only in the middle leaving the metal proud on each side to lock the sight in for windage and then used the original screw and part that held the front of the Ruger sight.

Anyone?

I will not do the new guy thing and check back in an hour and expect 15 responses......I will not....I will not....

-kBob

 

[Outlaw75]

Is this it?

http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/ruger-mini-14-mini-30/43581-m-1-carbine-sight-ranch-mini-s.html

 

[greyling22]

seems like a lot of work. Worth it if you have a spare carbine rear laying around, but if you have to drop 40 bucks an a rear, then do a bunch of filing, I'd be temped to just get the accuracy systems sight for 80. costs even more than a tech sight, but looks more like am m1 sight.

 

[kBob]

grayling>

the link you sent appears to be just a n M1 carbine sight that the manufacturer has already done the work on.

If I was spending that much I would get the tecsights.

Thanks though.

-kBob

 

[kBob]

Outlaw,

Yes, thank you very much. The same stuff did appear on that persnons personal web site way back when.

I am convinced that Ruger decided that most folks would scope the Ranch Rifles and just put on that minimal folding peep so they could say it had iron sights.

-kBob

 

[Sheepdog1968]

I shoot my ranch rifle with irons only. It is the 580 series and the irons are quite good. Is it possible to have the newer mini 14 irons installed on an older ruger? They might even do the install for you.

 

[Rule3]

Which M1 sight. The 1st or 2nd variation

 

[il_10]

The variations in the photos in the links are 2nd; adjustable.

Neat idea. One thing that's got me confused is elevation. The m1 sight is adjustable using a ball detent and slide for 1, 2, 2.5, and 300 yard ranges (respectively). It's not precision adjustable. I would assume these graduations would have been set up for .30 carbine, and wouldn't be accurate for 5.56?

 

[kBob]

No the elevation marks on the carbine sight do not "work" with .223.

Appearently one sets the sight at 100 yards being careful to not press it all the way forward past thee 100 yard detent and then "adjusts the height of the front sight. One then shoots the rifle at other ranges to learn what setting comes closest to the needed range and goes from there.

My under standing is that if the front is too low to begin with then one builds it up.

Tech Sights are looking better by the moment, but I asked to be able to "comparison shop".

Now if some one made a front sight with eared protectors and a flash hider exactly like an M-14s but scaled to the Mini that would be cool.

Weird thing about Mini-14 and Ranch rifles in .223 on THR is that over the last decade it seem about anything one does to them improves them. Seems ANY muzzle attachment makes them shoot better, ANY barrel shortening makes them shoot better, adding ANY Barrel "Stabilizer" makes them shoot better. almost ANY up grade in sights seems to make them shoot better. Reducing the amount of gas to the operationg rod's front chamber improves accuracy.

I begin to wonder if painting the stock might make them more accurate!

-kBob