Range report: Bersa .380

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ebenw

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Some weeks back, I was looking for a good comfort/carry piece. MN has a new law...a good one.
I was looking around at a local gun store and found this sized-right Bersa Thunder .380 and asked to see it. The price was low, considering the other options they had. (this store does not tend to carry junk ...Hi Point, Llama to name a couple.)
This little number runs about $230 (average).. it can cost a lot less, but you'll have to look around.
The fit and finish were pretty good and their were no noticeable flaws in the workmanship. I was surprised to see this in a gun at that price.
So I went home and looked for other folks' opinions on it. Overall, they were favorable, so I returned several days later and bought it.

Now, after finally getting to test it, I can say that it seems to work very well, is accurate (not that it's much of an issue considering it's intended use and the circumstances that would require such use) and feeds well with cor-bon hollowpoints. Federal ball had no problem either.
However, Winchester FMJ wadcutters would sometimes produce a jam that was difficult to clear. The cartridge would tips upwards too far before it could slide into the chamber and hold postition, keeping the breech halfway open and creating tension against the magazine (spring). Attempting to cycle the slide didn't do anything, as you may have guessed, since the barrel is fixed to the frame (blowback). The only way to clear this jam was to press the mag release (very hard) while tugging at the floorplate to get the mag out. Then cycle the slide to drop out the jammed cartridge. This is indeed the worst type of jam I've encountered with a handgun to date. :mad:

Not one review ever said that this gun would take anything....
...but winchester factory loads???

Other than that, I think it was a good purchase with money well spent (and at least as much saved over the competition).

If I had more money to throw around, I might have instead considered a sig P 230 or 232.

I hope this helps those who are considering.
 
You just stumbled onto one of the best deals in gundom. The range where I sometimes shoot hangs the Bersa and its cousin Firestorm on the peg board. Never had a problem.

I just purchased one for my daughter because the price was right and the gun was reliable.

Run a search on THR for personal defense ammo for a Bersa. Been discussed at length.

BTW, I was destined to purchase a SIG P-232 but changed by mind. Why pay $500+ for a gun that shoots as well one that sells for $230.
 
Dad has a bersa .380 and loves it. Great little gun that he can really shoot well. It will knock over any can we put up at about any decent range. He got his with a rug and a box of ammon, taxes and TBI papers for 250 I believe. Great gun reminds me alot of a ppk almost. I wouldnt mind having one myself. The workmanship on them are really top notch for their price.
 
Bersa .380s are great guns. I used to carry one years ago (early '90s) before moving to a S&W 9mm. The gun was phenomenally accurate, and I believe one in competent hands will easily hold its own against a Glock 34 (longslide) in benchrest accuracy.

I shot mine a LOT and NEVER had a jam with ammo it liked, not even once. UMC FMJ (Wal-Mart yellow box) fed like a charm, but the gun absolutely hated S&B. The UMC had a longer, more tapered bullet that fed much more reliably. IIRC, the jams I had with S&B may have been similar to what you describe. S&B .380s (at least those I bought in 1991 or so) used a really round-nosed bullet, almost spherical looking, and the Bersa hated it. I never used Winchester, to my knowledge.

I carried Federal 90-gr Hydra-Shok (not "Personal Defense") and shot up my carry ammo fairly regularly, and never had a jam.
 
My Bersa .380 has been 100% reliable and is very accurate. It has fed and fired everything I've put in it including lots of S&B, Winchester, American Eagle and Hydra-Shoks.

Great gun for $209.00!
 
Hello. I bought one a few days ago and after preliminary testing, I'm impressed. There's some range work being done at the club I belong to and shooting's severely limited right now. I'll be doing a range report with various JHPs primarily soon complete with chronograph data. It seems to be a very nice pistol.

Best.
 
My venture back into 'gundom" was after my divorce from an ANTI :what:. I was looking for a reasonably priced .380 as it was gonna be a carry and they were the smaller (non Kahr) guns back then....I studied, read, researched, rented, borrowed, stole (not really but sounds good) and shot every 380 I could....over 20 of them were shot extensively....I owned a BDA in college and was looking for its equal for a much better price...divorce is expensive (still is :rolleyes: )
After MUCH deliberation I came up with this list.....all were worth of carrying, for accuracy and dependability....in my own testing.

FEG SMC .380/918
FEG PMK .380
Bersa/Firestorm .380
CZ 83 .380/Mak
Sig 230/232
Br. BDA .380
Beretta (same as Br.)
NAA .380 (new and spendy then)

This is close to a list in order of price and size.....
The Bersa was (using hands despite not being able to see me)
this close to going home with me....but for the same price, back then, I got the CZ.........

They are a very very good gun. For the price which hasnt really gone up since then....they are a best buy.

Enjoy your gun and shoot well.
 
ebenw
Welcome to the Bersa club.

I have made a energetic attempt to find different types of ball/FMJ ammo for my Bersa and so far only the WinClean 380 with that flat point TMJ has shown any jamming problems.

From Brown Bear to UMC to S&B the others did well. Still hunt for some Fiocchi (sp?) to try.

In HP I've had less success finding differnt types to try. Mainly some Speer Golddots (excellent) and a box of Remingtons (also good) and they worked A-ok.
When SAC posts his data we'll have some good info and picts. He always does a great job with that kind of thing.

All-in-all I bought my B-gun because I wanted something smaller and more carry frienldy for my hot weather exer-walks etc and while I wanted to look at the 3AT who knows when or when-not that will happen or if the thing will run. I saw the Bersa as a cheap auto that might fill the bill till something better came along.
I was surprised in that it turned out to be an excellent product and I'm ashamed I paid so little for it. $178
Frankly I don't care when the 3At comes out any longer if ever.
Now the B-gun is just about my everywhere.
Good luck
S-
 
My first carry gun, and one of my first center fire autos was a Bersa 383DA, this was in the late 80's. I regret trading it back in the mid-90's, it was a good little gun.
 
Back in 1994 when I was looking for a .380, I came across a Russian Mak in .380, happened to be in a nickel finish. It was $130. Since then, I have bought four more Maks, from varying countries, all for under $150 and all in 9MM Mak caliber. Since finding the Mak, I can't think of a better pistol for the money in this size gun and in .380 or 9MM Mak.

Actually, I would love to have the Bersa in .22 as I've seen before and should have bought. Looked the same as the .380, but in .22LR. They do seem like very nice guns for the money.
 
My new Bersa .380

I love it.

However, I was having a jamming problem.

I used American Eagle and another cheaper brand of ammo (I think it started with an I?) when first shooting it and I was having problems with the bullets being at too steep of an angle to correctly load. AND, the last round would always be sitting there with the action open... like the gun thought it was empty, the action would stay open and tadaa, there is a round sittting there.

Needless to say I was frustrated.

Someone at the range I was shooting at watched me shoot, watched my posture and everything, seeing that it was ok, suggested I try some cleaner and hotter ammo - I bought winchester.

I did, and now it's perfect. No jams (I was jamming at least 1 in 5 I would say)...

I had purchased a new mag just in case that was the problem as well, but the Winchester ammo shoots great with both.

It's worth $2 more a box to me!

Any other ideas... I'm open to them..
thanks!
Niki
 
it's kind of amazing. When the Bersa's first came out the FFL's tried everything in their power to steer you away from buying one. It's cheap and it's junk.
Let a little while go by and now it's the "best buy in the world".
I have one and I really like it. After 2 magazines when I first got it I was shooting smiley faces at 7 yards.
My wife grabbed my first one. My daughter has one to use if her 1911 is too big for that day.
I haven't found any ammo that won't go through it.

AFS
 
How is the recoil on that little gun? How dose it compare to say a larger 9mm? Some people tell me a bersa .380 recoils more because of the blowback frame, so Im just trying to get your opinion.
 
However, Winchester FMJ wadcutters would sometimes produce a jam that was difficult to clear.

Wadcutters are pretty blunt to be using in a semi-auto. Where most rounds tend to self-center if they don't quite line up on feeding, wadcutters are much more likely to catch an edge and jam. I suspect with ball or conventional hollow-points you'll have no problems. FWIW, this is why it's a good idea to try firing a reasonable quantity of any ammo you might want to carry trough a particular gun before you actually start carrying it.

Overall, I think you'll be happy with the Bersa.

Tom
 
Bought my Bersa about 2 yrs ago and still love to shoot it, for the Range I shoot CCI Blazers, no problems....If you have any Bersa specific questions join this board: http://bersatalk.com/default.aspx Good bunch of people with great ideas, we also have a gunsmith there that does warrenty work on them (Lifetime Warr). My orginial Bersa had a "warped frame", Bersa sent me a new gun and a set of wrap around grips for it.....


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Jim
 
The gun store I frequent in Indianapolis sells the Duo-Tone model for $189.00. I can't find anyone else that comes close to that price. I may have to get one for myself.
 
Love mine! The Fist holster is a sweet addition to the package. No failures of any kind -- yet. ;)

Also, I couldn't stop myself from a chance to post pictures in an almost 3 yr old thread! :)

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if my Firestorm .22 was any indication, the Bersa/Firestorm is the gun the Walthers could have been. My dad has a older Interarms PPK/S, and the Firestorm is much cheaper, has much better sights, and a trigger that is actually pullable in DA.

Crap, this thread has me wanted one in 380. haha, now I can go on glocktalk/arfcom and get bashed for carrying 3 worthless calibers! (.380, .38, 9mm):p
 
Tip-up FTF would have me looking hard at the magazine first.
Check the tube interior of burrs/grot. Ditto the follower sides.

Actually check if it's a FACTORY Bersa magazine. Those are
somewhat expensive, and there have been some folks selling Bersa
pistols with cheaper (and less-reliable) third-party mags switched in.
The factory mags are then sold separately.

:(
 
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