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Grammar and punctuation are your friends. 
At least hit <ENTER> a few times to separate your questions. It reads like a curious 5 year old.
It's a .22 LR with a pellet capsule instead of a bullet. Meant for killing rats in the barn but without putting holes in the barn or other stuff.
Range is limited though I don't know how much.
Yes, but won't cylce a semi-auto very well. At least not a Ruger Mark II.
Probably.
Don't know. Go to Walmart.
I am no expert since I don't remember if I have actually ever shot it. My Grandpa had a barn but all he stored in there was hay and an old bulldozer.
At least hit <ENTER> a few times to separate your questions. It reads like a curious 5 year old. It's a .22 LR with a pellet capsule instead of a bullet. Meant for killing rats in the barn but without putting holes in the barn or other stuff.
Range is limited though I don't know how much.
Yes, but won't cylce a semi-auto very well. At least not a Ruger Mark II.
Probably.
Don't know. Go to Walmart.
I am no expert since I don't remember if I have actually ever shot it. My Grandpa had a barn but all he stored in there was hay and an old bulldozer.
one-shot-one
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i do not know how far away it will kill a rat, but if you want to kill a snake with it you had better be within feet and not yards.
i do not know how far away it will kill a rat, but if you want to kill a snake with it you had better be within feet and not yards.
Furncliff
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The .22LR pellet cartridge would have to be applied to a rat at point blank range to have any effect. IME.
Is .22short an option for you?
Is .22short an option for you?
Furncliff
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PITBULL said:
I'm quite sure CCI makes theirs with #12 shot, so the range is going to be limited to a few yards, certainly not more than 10 yards.
Not sure on price, but walmart is a good place to try.
If you are, indeed shooting rats etc. then maybe consider a high-quality pellet rifle in either .177 or .22 cal.
Just a thought.
gremlin_bros
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cci rat shot says not more than 15 feet
i prefer the use Remington shot shells its a little bigger shot and a bit more power the range says its the same range 10 to 15 feet.
at the mines i bait the little bastards with crackers at about 12 yards and snipe them with my AR-7
http://www.lisc.net/p628.htm#
i prefer the use Remington shot shells its a little bigger shot and a bit more power the range says its the same range 10 to 15 feet.
at the mines i bait the little bastards with crackers at about 12 yards and snipe them with my AR-7
http://www.lisc.net/p628.htm#
Check this out, it's silent to use to bust beer bottles in town, yet powerful enough to bust beer bottles in town. I like it, but I never use it enough to justify the brick of it I bought.
http://www.aguilaammo.com/supercolibri.htm
http://www.aguilaammo.com/supercolibri.htm
gremlin_bros
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r.o.f. this is what the original 22's were just bullet and primer enough for a hand gun it's kinda intresting to see this today i may have to get a few rounds and try them out thanks for the link.
I've gotten .22 magnum rat shot to bury itself into wood at 30' and still maintain a semblance of a pattern when shot from a 5 1/2" barrell pistol. Never used it on anything tho, but from test shooting it looks ok. Will try it for snakes next summer.
I've killed several snakes with the .38 spl shot shells, but range was around 10'. Pattern goes haywire much past that distance for that round.
I've killed several snakes with the .38 spl shot shells, but range was around 10'. Pattern goes haywire much past that distance for that round.
It is less fun, but a good walking stick is probably the best anti-snake tool. You might want a knife to sever the head as well. A .22 is more fun though, especially when trying to shoot straight in a rocking canoe.
Trying to kill snakes with a Red Ryder BB gun will not work. The BB's bounce off. You need a more powerful BB gun, a big stick, or a good dog. (lessons learned as a little kid)
Most of the snakes where I grew up were copperheads and mocasins. Rattlesnakes were more rare where I was though there were some.
Trying to kill snakes with a Red Ryder BB gun will not work. The BB's bounce off. You need a more powerful BB gun, a big stick, or a good dog. (lessons learned as a little kid)
Most of the snakes where I grew up were copperheads and mocasins. Rattlesnakes were more rare where I was though there were some.
I tried the stuff (CCI)
on the flying rats (pidgeons) in my barn...shots were sbout 20 ft. and it was pretty much useless...Went back to .22 LR hollowpoint (hey, the roof needs work anyway...Even then a few flew around a bit,even after a solid body shot, but most were DRT.
on the flying rats (pidgeons) in my barn...shots were sbout 20 ft. and it was pretty much useless...Went back to .22 LR hollowpoint (hey, the roof needs work anyway...Even then a few flew around a bit,even after a solid body shot, but most were DRT.
I have use the .22 rat shot to kill a bird in my house. Missed the first time (it was on a vent fan in a bathroom (fell down during some sub zero temperature). I pulled the cover down and about had an accident....Saw the bird 15" from my face
...I saw the movie the Birds as a kid. So, I shoved up the cover.. Got my Ruger Mrk II with CCI rat shot and missed the first time. At 2.5' it didn't even go all the way through the sheet rock. Then I nailed him. Also have killed baby rabits in the back yard so the dogs would not eat them. You must be real close; probably within a yard or two. It will not recycle the Ruger. That is my experience anyway.
(it was on a vent fan in a bathroom (fell down during some sub zero temperature). I pulled the cover down and about had an accident....Saw the bird 15" from my face ...I saw the movie the Birds as a kid. So, I shoved up the cover.. Got my Ruger Mrk II with CCI rat shot and missed the first time. At 2.5' it didn't even go all the way through the sheet rock. Then I nailed him. Also have killed baby rabits in the back yard so the dogs would not eat them. You must be real close; probably within a yard or two. It will not recycle the Ruger. That is my experience anyway.
Carl N. Brown
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.22 lr rat shot: purely close range
Have shot one snake in my mother-in-law's bathroom (under the
clothes hamper) at two-three feet, killed the snake and left the
outline of its head on the floor in pellets and GSR gun shot residue.
My only alternative was to let my mother-in-law move in with us.
On another occasion, I shot a large rat at six feet with rat shot;
it ran away, but this was a big rat. I do keep a spare magazine for
my Ruger Mark II with CCI rat shot just in case. .22 rat shot will
not cycle the Ruger: manual operation only.
The Marlin bolt-action gun .22 magnum smoothbore is supposed to handle
small vermin at "garden" ranges but I have heard little real life
anecdotes about it.
Have shot one snake in my mother-in-law's bathroom (under the
clothes hamper) at two-three feet, killed the snake and left the
outline of its head on the floor in pellets and GSR gun shot residue.
My only alternative was to let my mother-in-law move in with us.
On another occasion, I shot a large rat at six feet with rat shot;
it ran away, but this was a big rat. I do keep a spare magazine for
my Ruger Mark II with CCI rat shot just in case. .22 rat shot will
not cycle the Ruger: manual operation only.
The Marlin bolt-action gun .22 magnum smoothbore is supposed to handle
small vermin at "garden" ranges but I have heard little real life
anecdotes about it.
Indoors, I would suggest a non-firearm approach to killing pests. Shovels, broom handles, and such work better and may create less damage. Hell, I stunned a rat in my garage once with a cheap plastic broom. It was all that came to hand when I looked around for something to kill it.
Snakes especially. Most poisonous snakes can only strike at less than half their length away. Shovels are better for snakes than a gun if you have room to work. A toilet plunger would probably do the job.
My mother got bit by a copperhead when I was younger. Stepped on it right outside the house. Snakes were not allowed in our yard ever. Death penalty enforced. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
Snakes especially. Most poisonous snakes can only strike at less than half their length away. Shovels are better for snakes than a gun if you have room to work. A toilet plunger would probably do the job.
My mother got bit by a copperhead when I was younger. Stepped on it right outside the house. Snakes were not allowed in our yard ever. Death penalty enforced. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
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i will use cci shot if i have to but for my money remington shot works better bigger shot and more power still not enough to cycle an auto but works great in my revolvers.
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I used to have a NAA .22LR mini-revolver for snakes with ratshot. After shooting a medium-sized snake at a range of 3 feet, and having it slither away, I decided that tiny shot in a .22LR pistol just isn't a winning combination, even for snakes. So I bought some shotshells for my 9mm and sold the NAA .22.
For rats (which are fairly hardy creatures), I don't think .22LR shotshells would be effective at all. Some of those Aguila .22 "Colubri" or "Super Colubri" primer-powered loads would be much more effective. I'd personally go with a .177-caliber pellet gun for rats, or maybe a .38/.357 with shotshells if you want to go with a handgun.
For rats (which are fairly hardy creatures), I don't think .22LR shotshells would be effective at all. Some of those Aguila .22 "Colubri" or "Super Colubri" primer-powered loads would be much more effective. I'd personally go with a .177-caliber pellet gun for rats, or maybe a .38/.357 with shotshells if you want to go with a handgun.
Carl N. Brown
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The twenty-two caliber rimfire shotshells that hold a tiny amount
of very fine shot #12 or so "dust" shot.
Traditionally, rat shot shells were all brass with folded crimps
(federal still makes them that way) .
CCI makes a .22 shot shell with a blue plastic shot cap that
shatters as it goes down the barrel; at close range, the plastic
shards will damage a cardboard box almost as much as the shot.
The Federal .22 shot shells are labelled "birdshot" i guess to
avoid people thinking they were getting buckshot.
Mossberg made a smoothbore .22 rinfire shotgun and a
clay pigeon trap set call "Moss-skeet-o" ising the rat shot
or snake shot ammo, but it never caught on.
I did live capture a black snake in my mother-in-law's kitchen
once (used a mop to hold it down) and walked it out into the
woods a quarter mile before releasing it. The snake under the
clothes hamper had the color and patterns of a copperhead
and a hallway and two furniture cluttered bedrooms to escape
into, so I took no chances. I later filled all gaps around the
pipes and crevices with expanding insulation foam after that.
Whoever my mother-in-law hired to redo her bathroom did
not finish up the job properly for snake country. (Last night
I watched the "Crevices" episode of "Dark Tales of Japan"
only they had ghosts not snakes creeping out of the crevices.)
of very fine shot #12 or so "dust" shot.
Traditionally, rat shot shells were all brass with folded crimps
(federal still makes them that way) .
CCI makes a .22 shot shell with a blue plastic shot cap that
shatters as it goes down the barrel; at close range, the plastic
shards will damage a cardboard box almost as much as the shot.
The Federal .22 shot shells are labelled "birdshot" i guess to
avoid people thinking they were getting buckshot.
Mossberg made a smoothbore .22 rinfire shotgun and a
clay pigeon trap set call "Moss-skeet-o" ising the rat shot
or snake shot ammo, but it never caught on.
I did live capture a black snake in my mother-in-law's kitchen
once (used a mop to hold it down) and walked it out into the
woods a quarter mile before releasing it. The snake under the
clothes hamper had the color and patterns of a copperhead
and a hallway and two furniture cluttered bedrooms to escape
into, so I took no chances. I later filled all gaps around the
pipes and crevices with expanding insulation foam after that.
Whoever my mother-in-law hired to redo her bathroom did
not finish up the job properly for snake country. (Last night
I watched the "Crevices" episode of "Dark Tales of Japan"
only they had ghosts not snakes creeping out of the crevices.)
longrifleman
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I used to hunt with shot rounds when I was a kid. Good to about 10' on sparrows; probably a slow painful death to pigeons. I never could kill one outright. Rats just turn and give you a dirty look before they walk off. Pretty good on mice raiding the feed bin. Cats are cheaper, but stalking mice was fun.
At close range they will punch holes in a tin roof. Trust me.
At close range they will punch holes in a tin roof. Trust me.
Carl N. Brown
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Ratshot (specially .22)
.38/357 shotshell, .38 Spl LRN; .22s: C. CCI shotsell #12 shot; D. CCI Stinger
E. CCI CB long, F. Federal Long Rifle; G. Federal shotshell #10
The CCI shot is #12 size (dust shot they used to call it) and is incapsulated.
The Federal shot is #10 size, slightly larger, and is just loaded on an over-
powder wad and the case crimped.
Note the lenegth of the cases: (the CCI case = the .22 stinger case) and the
unfolded Federal crimped case is about the size of a .22 round. Some guns
might have problems ejecting the empties.
.38/357 shotshell, .38 Spl LRN; .22s: C. CCI shotsell #12 shot; D. CCI Stinger
E. CCI CB long, F. Federal Long Rifle; G. Federal shotshell #10
The CCI shot is #12 size (dust shot they used to call it) and is incapsulated.
The Federal shot is #10 size, slightly larger, and is just loaded on an over-
powder wad and the case crimped.
Note the lenegth of the cases: (the CCI case = the .22 stinger case) and the
unfolded Federal crimped case is about the size of a .22 round. Some guns
might have problems ejecting the empties.
A few months ago there was a good article in Guns and Ammo by Mike Venterino about using and making shot shells for pistols. Don't recall all the details but his favorite was a 45LC loaded with 1. powder 2. 45 gas check 3. shot 4. an upside down gas check then crimped a bit to keep everything together.
He says it does a very good job on snakes.
He says it does a very good job on snakes.
I've shot my fair share of sparrows in a barn using rat shot. I was able to put them down at a distance of 3 yards. It's not effective on most animals, but if you could corner/trap a mouse/rat or find a nested bird it will work just fine.
For what it's worth it did cycle just fine in a Ruger 22/45.
For what it's worth it did cycle just fine in a Ruger 22/45.
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