RCBS Pro2000 Vs Dillon XL650

[Peter M. Eick]

When you order from Powder Valley, they have a limit of 72 lbs per box as I remember it. What I do is order enough primers to not go into another box to maximize my 25$ hazmat shipping costs. Last time that was 50,000 primers and I have about 5 sleeves (25,000 primers) left. The problem is I ordered poorly and have a lot of cci-350's ands and 550's but I need cci-300's and especially cci-500's.

I will put together another big order in Feb along with another powder order.

The big problem you face is storage. It is against some fire codes to have that many primers in one spot in a home, so I part them out to friends to store at their houses. This way I can keep my "stash" in the fire limits. Make sure you think through the problem before you order.

 

[BigJakeJ1s]

The only priming system that I have heard of setting off a tube full of primers is on the Dillon 650. Unlike the 550 or the LNL AP, the 650 has a "chain" of primers in a disk from the priming site back to the bottom of the tube. So if one is set off at the cartridge, then the chain goes off and sets off the primers in the tube. On the 550 and LNL AP, one primer at a time is transferred from the tube to the priming station, which is a good distance away from the tube. I have never heard of a primer tube detonation in either of them.

Andy

 

[Peter M. Eick]

Go search this forum for "dillon explosion" and read all about them. If you go over to glocktalk you can find more.

If you are really interested look up the patents for the 650 and 550 and read them over. Especially the part about the "blast sheild".

 

[Galil5.56]

If you go over to glocktalk you can find more.

Boy they can make just about anything KB... Just kidding. Maybe the blast shield idea is Dillon being prudent for something although extremely rare, possible. Kinda like an over pressure valve on the water heater, fuse panel in the home, thermal switches in furnaces...

 

[WmCC]

I used a 650 for several years...a very fine press, especially for long runs of a single cartridge. I'm a bit older now and do not shoot Bullseye or IDPA very often and have switched over to the Pro 2000 (exclusively) due to the fact that I find it to be simpler, more durable, and much FASTER with respect to frequent cartridge changes.
My rate of production has not changed appreciably between the Dillon and RCBS as I tend to scrutinize and keep tabs on everything as I go along.

I strongly recommend the RCBS lock-out die regardless of the machine that you choose.

 

[winchester243]

As far as the BS, here's an old thread on the 650, it's too bad the pics are no longer available.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=118164

 

[snuffy]

As far as the BS, here's an old thread on the 650, it's too bad the pics are no longer available.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=118164

I didn't call BS on the story that a stack of primers have detonated on various machines that use tubes. What I'm saying is BS is the sideways detonation theory. I'm saying it is just NOT possible to cause a chain reaction SIDEWAYS in the dillon 650 primer disc. Saying that it happens, defies logic AND physics.

 

[Johnny Guest]

Enough is enough

1. Y'all quit arguing, now. Saying someone is "full of it" or "calling BS" is just too near to personal attacks.

2. Just posting "+1" is non-contributory and it LOOKS as if those who make such a post is simply tring to run up their post counts.

I'll just delete such entries as I find them. I hope this is all that is necessary to stop this stuff.

Johnny Guest
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