read if you load 45ACP

[Cliff6]

Yesterday at the range, I was shooting some of my 45ACP reloads. About halfway through the session, I had a round that didn't chamber. No problem, racked and went on. After I finished the clip, I looked at the ejected round expecting a bulge or something, but instead, I saw the headstamp read 460 ROWLAND. I had never heard of that round.

It is same measurements as a 45ACP except it is 1/16" longer and doesn't work in a 45ACP. It is a round first made in 1998 to have the same power as a 44 magnum in a 45. Very similar situation as a .357 and 38 special.

Anyhow, I'm sure it is a rather rare cartridge. If you load 45ACP though, you might want to start looking at each headstamp.

Cliff

 

[Yankee1986]

Good info! Thank you.
I had heard of the caliber but I assumed it was one of those big game rifle cartridges.
I seriously doubt anyone at my local range has anything chambered in it though.

 

[kerreckt]

I ran across one when seating 45acp about a year ago. I could tell at the time something wasn't right and examined closer. Lo and behold a new discovery!

 

[edwardware]

It is same measurements as a 45ACP except it is 1/16" longer. . .

You shouldn't have to look at headstamps to catch a difference that large; general handling should be sufficient.

How did it make it through your taper crimp die?

 

[Buzznrose]

Some info here:

https://www.460rowland.com/

I’ve considered converting a Glock 21 but haven’t yet.

 

[N555]

My 1911 won't fire out of battery like some of the striker fired junk out there.

 

[roque5]

Thanks for the info.

 

[Charlie98]

Friend of mine has a few (2?) carbines in .460 Rowland... he loves the extra power in the longer barrel. It's more than the .45ACP, but less than the old .45 Winchester Magnum (... if any of you are old enough to remember that.)

My 1911 won't fire out of battery like some of the striker fired junk out there.

A .45ACP chamber is a .45ACP chamber... any .45ACP pistol shouldn't chamber a .460 Rowland regardless, since it headspaces on the case mouth.

 

[jmorris]

Been around for more than 20 years now, just a rare “boutique” kind of round. The guy will miss the piece when he gets home.

If you have ever seen a cut down .308 case, just a little longer than a 45 ACP at the same range, might even be the same guy/gun that left it there.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Been around for more than 20 years now, just a rare “boutique” kind of round. The guy will miss the piece when he gets home.

If you have ever seen a cut down .308 case, just a little longer than a 45 ACP at the same range, might even be the same guy/gun that left it there.

I hate when I lose a $.60 piece of brass

 

[Yankee1986]

I hate when I lose a $.60 piece of brass

I bet it's more than $.60.

 

[redcon1]

Some info here:

https://www.460rowland.com/

I’ve considered converting a Glock 21 but haven’t yet.

I converted one of my Glock 21s to 460 Rowland. It really is a blast. You end up having to change magazine springs and the recoil spring and rod and you need a compensator to delay extraction. I was driving a 230 gr XTP at over 1,200 fps with like 11.6 gr of Longshot. Hodgdon says 12 gr will get you over 1,300 fps. It isn't uncomfortable to shoot but it's real clear it isn't a .45 acp.

 

[mdi]

I haven't found any 460 Rowland brass at any range I've used (and I don't know much about the cartridge). I'm not worried much because the first and third steps for my reloading is inspection. First I give the brass a quick scan. Then I clean the brass. And before I start processing the cases, I give them a closer look. I started that out of ignorance (in 1970?) making sure the cases were the right caliber and reloadable. It just became a habit...

I'll keep my eyes peeled for a 460 case but at the "range" I frequent now 9mm and .223/5.56 are 95% of the brass left behind...

 

[.45Coltguy]

Hmm. Not familiar with it. Not knocking it, just don't know a thing about it. What is it's intended purpose other than a "thrill" round?

 

[Buzznrose]

My 1911 won't fire out of battery like some of the striker fired junk out there.

I’ve never had a striker fired gun fire out of battery. Guess you’re not talking about Glocks or XD’s…

 

[Buzznrose]

Hmm. Not familiar with it. Not knocking it, just don't know a thing about it. What is it's intended purpose other than a "thrill" round?

What’s the purpose of a .480 Ruger? A 500 S&W? A .44 Mag?

if it is legitimately a .44 mag equal, I suspect it lets folks use an auto loader they may prefer over a wheel gun?

 

[redcon1]

What is it's intended purpose other than a "thrill" round?

To develop 44 magnum level energy from a common semi auto handgun platform.

 

[redcon1]

What’s the purpose of a .480 Ruger? A 500 S&W? A .44 Mag?

if it is legitimately a .44 mag equal, I suspect it lets folks use an auto loader they may prefer over a wheel gun?

It definitely enters 44 magnum territory and the recoil, though certainly not light, is nowhere near as brutal as a wheelgun of a similar weight so you get fairly rapid follow up shots and, in the case of the Glock 21, you get 12 rounds vs 6. My only issue with it is that you're changing springs in a firearm that is known to be extremely reliable in its factory configuration. Once you start messing with it, you're decreasing that reliability. I haven't shot mine in a while. Maybe I should.

 

[bigmike45]

Since I get a lot of brass from friends and off the floor at the local range, after cleaning I always turn the cases upside down and verify caliber, primer size and brand. I have yet to run across a .460 rowland case in many thousand reloads. Prior to checking I did try to stuff a large primer into a small primer case......that was interesting.

 

[ballman6711]

What’s the purpose of a .480 Ruger? A 500 S&W? A .44 Mag?

if it is legitimately a .44 mag equal, I suspect it lets folks use an auto loader they may prefer over a wheel gun?

The purpose of MY 480 Ruger is to teach me how to flinch correctly!

OT, I don't have but would like to try a 460 Rowland. If I were to own one I think I would prefer to have it purpose built and not a modified 45acp.

chris

 

[Y-T71]

I've heard about it over the years but never seen one "in the wild"

I always look for stuff like that because my son collects cartridge cases.

Cool find

 

[lightman]

Thanks for the heads up. I'm not sure if I have loaded for the 45 ACP since the 460 Rowland came out. I'm still working my way through the last 6000 rounds that I loaded.

 

[Blue68f100]

Don't forget the 45GAP.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Sounds like a good argument for headstamp and case rim/mouth inspection of every case.

 

[.45Coltguy]

To develop 44 magnum level energy from a common semi auto handgun platform.

Ok, sounds good. Like i said, I know nothing about the round. Found out today more about it than I ever knew before hand. Thanks for a level headed reply.