Jackrabbit1957
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I have my Blackhawk sighted in at 50 yards shooting .38 specials. It never ceases to amaze me as to how some folks think a pistol is strictly a short range weapon.
Real world average 25 yard grouping.
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Steve Milbocker
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Thanks for the honest groups gentlemen, it sure makes me feel better about my own shooting!
Steve Milbocker
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I read an article sometime ago about shooting with a “gip” on the front sight. Makes good sense to me. I put one on my recently acquired Colt OMM last night. If this Michigan weather cooperates maybe I’ll get a chance to try it.
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Sorry about the poor quality photo
WestKentucky
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The biggest thing for me is trigger. Revolvers I’m always pretty decent, but with semiauto pistols it can be touchy, especially with my beretta style pistols or other da/sa pistols. I get used to a soft and slow squeeze of a revolver trigger and I end up bumpfiring a semiauto pistol if I’m not super careful. I can jerk the trigger and get a single shot every time but jerking the trigger isn’t conducive for accuracy.
CajunBass
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I generally consider it to be a great day anytime the range staff says "Come back soon" as I'm leaving.
Grip, sight alignment, trigger control and follow through is the mantra for precision handgun shooting. Guessing by the above, looks like sight alignment issues and/or trigger control (pressing the trigger without moving the sights. Dry fire is one way to suss that out, leaving a couple empty chambers and shooting all six is another). Fixed sights are tough to see for most. You might try shooting at the middle of a blank piece of paper, could be easier on your eyes and offer a better sight picture. Focus on sight alignment and trigger control, not so much the paper, and see what kind of groups you get.
I believe Ross Seyfried said a good shot could group about an inch for every 10 yards (off hand) and I figure that is a pretty fair standard to go by.
Below is a target I shot at 25 yards while sighting in a 454 (sitting but 2 hands unsupported). It doesn't look like much, but I moved the sights twice during that string of 7 shots (yeah...I know, but I kept it because it happened).
Standing with two hands, I am happy with anything under 2.5", but can easily be in the 4" range if things aren't going well.
tightgroup tiger
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The biggest thing for me is trigger. Revolvers I’m always pretty decent, but with semiauto pistols it can be touchy, especially with my beretta style pistols or other da/sa pistols. I get used to a soft and slow squeeze of a revolver trigger and I end up bumpfiring a semiauto pistol if I’m not super careful. I can jerk the trigger and get a single shot every time but jerking the trigger isn’t conducive for accuracy.[/QUOTE
This target is a good representation of that.
Two "flyers" from me getting over the crappy trigger on my 1st gen Shield and the rest is all GP 100 4" I shot this last Friday. At 25yds that .357 mag group that has 9 rounds through it would have had a group of several inches, 3 or 4" probably.
But, Yes, trigger quality makes all the difference in the world. I had my gunsmith do his thing on the trigger on this GP100 or I wouldn't be able to shoot a group like this.
Coal Dragger
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Not a revolver but this is representative of what I can consistently do at 25 yards standing two handed.
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.... and for some reason the site decided to lay the photo on its side.
* sigh *
* sigh *
tightgroup tiger
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I screwed my post up myself. I didn't need any help.
This is a 5-shot offhand group with my BFR in .44 Mag topped with an Ultradot L/T. The load is by Buffalo Bore that consists of a cast 340 grain bullet somewhere north of 1,300 fps.
This is right around hunt time when I am in reasonable tune. 25 yards with Garrett's 405 grain .45 Colt loads from my Huntington custom 6-shot (oversized cylinder) Bisley in .45 Colt - 10 shots offhand.
Iron sights and I don't work all that well together anymore, but I will still carry an iron sighted revolver for backup and I do practice with one.
This is right around hunt time when I am in reasonable tune. 25 yards with Garrett's 405 grain .45 Colt loads from my Huntington custom 6-shot (oversized cylinder) Bisley in .45 Colt - 10 shots offhand.
Iron sights and I don't work all that well together anymore, but I will still carry an iron sighted revolver for backup and I do practice with one.
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CraigC
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I don't take many pictures of benchrested groups and have never taken one of an off hand group. I reckon I never considered it valuable information. My analytical mind has always been more concerned about how the gun/load performed and figured the rest was up to me. Of course, I usually shoot at steel reactive targets off my hind legs. Can't take pics of groups on small rocks. 
gglass
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25 Yards is where i prefer to test any handgun for accuracy.
Not many wheelguns in my stable, but i sure do love this custom Ruger GP100.
Another 25 yards off-hand without a scope
Not many wheelguns in my stable, but i sure do love this custom Ruger GP100.
Another 25 yards off-hand without a scope
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I'm sure I'm average any more if not less, I did start a postal match with a buddy on the right coast with pellet pistols, but anyhow,... Some years ago, probably about 2001 a new buddy and myself met at a local range. He was pretty new to shooting and I'd been at it for near 20 years at that point with anything I could get my hands on to shoot. We hang up one of the huge B-27 targets at maybe 10-15yds and he goes first with a Beretta 92 and scatters them about the black as a new shooter is want to do. After looking at it and taping up all the holes, we roll the target back out and it is my turn. I have no recollection of what firearm I was using, probably a 1911 of some sort, or a Hi-Power 40. I shoot and we pull the target back and he says "Where the heck did you shoot, there aren't any holes!?! Did you miss?" I point to the little man target in the upper left. All the shots were on it. It was close and easy shooting, but pretty funny at the time. Currently suffer from the "can't see the front sight with these glasses" syndrome.
Ok I'll play. All depends on the pistol. My SW22 makes me think my 9mm pistols are broken. Testing hand loads at 25 yards from the bench my best loads shoot about 4.5". Below is my last attempt at an off-hand group at 25 yards shooting 9 shots at a 4" circle. The gun is a stock S&W M&P9 w/ a 4.25" barrel. And it turned sideways...anyone know how to turn the picture the right way?
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Riomouse911
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I will never be a true bullseye shooter, I just can’t mentally find the consistency. But if I can keep most of my shots in the 10 ring, with the rest in the 9, on a B-27 at 25 yards...I’m happy.
This standard isn’t all that hard to do, but some guns make this easier than others, that’s for sure.
Stay safe.
This standard isn’t all that hard to do, but some guns make this easier than others, that’s for sure.
Stay safe.
Riomouse911
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There should be an edit function when you pull up the picture, it’s there with the trashcan icon to delete it. Once you hit the edit there should be a rotate icon that allows you to spin it at 90 degree intervals.
stay safe.
Pudge
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When I was shooting lots of .22, and my eyes were good, under 3" at 25 yards was good, over 4" needed improvement. The more I shot, the more frequent were the good targets. I was going to dig out some of them to document my efforts, and see how frequent the good targets really were. But then I realized that would be like someone asking what a good time was for running a mile would be for me, and responding with a time from when I ran competitively, and acting like that's my current standard.
The OP is an example of good shooting.
The OP is an example of good shooting.
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I’m not gonna blow no smoke: On a good day all 30 bullets hit the paper.
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At 65 years old, the only loads that I shoot offhand at 25 yards are my hunting loads, so generally heavy 44 mag and 45 Colt loads (310-340 gr bullets @ 1100-1200 fps). My records show 5-shot groups between 3.7 and 7.8 inches, with the average at 5.6 inches. 25+ years ago, when I could still see the sights well, I could keep a cylinder full in a black 6" bull at 50 yards. These loads will all shoot 1½ - 2 inch groups off sandbags.
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Today, indoor range, 25yd line, two hands, unsupported, three five shot strings, double action rapid fire. Two used Taurus revolvers: late 80’s Model 82 and late 90’s Model 80. First time shooting either one. Targets are labeled.
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