Oh, on a constructive note, I use a 20 gauge coach gun for a home defense shotgun, backed up by whatever handgun I've carried that day. Even slugs are easy on the shoulder with it. The 12s, buckshot kicks considerably less than slugs. At close ranges, 00 bucks is pretty devastating on human targets. I mean, I wouldn't actually hunt deer with it, but heck, I load up with 3 buck in the 20 and think it's plenty effective.