“some of the above information is just completely WRONG. The Mauser does NOT have a "complete ring" in the receiver breech, it is cut through the right side, front to back, exactly like the Arisaka. Take a light and look in there for yourself. What you are seeing is the barrel face, not the receiver, behind that cut slot for the extractor”
“it is cut through the right side, front to back, exactly like the Arisaka” I do not believe it is me as in your reference to “you” that needs to look, I have 12 Mauser receivers that are going to get barrels, you know, pick me, pick me. I as in your reference to “you”, all I have to do is pick pick up a receiver, measure from the face of the front receiver ring down to the torque/seating ring to determine the length of the barrel shank, you know, I want to determine which hits first the barrel face or the shoulder at the end of the threads. I do not feel cheated, none of my Mausers have an extractor that goes from the back of the receiver ring to the front of the receiver ring “LIKE THE JAPANESE 38”. The ring around my Mausers ‘98’ STANDARD receivers are complete circles, again, no cuts except, again, except in the rear/right side of the front receiver ring,
Then there is the Japanese design, Remington has the ring around the ring around the ring, one member of this forum was yelling “Where are the three rings, I can only find two” and I replied with “It is in your hand, look in your hand, the bolt! the bolt is the other ring etc.. THEN! he purchased a set of Redding Competition shell holders, instead of contacting Redding he choose to tell me.
Then there was the ‘X’ Mauser, the ‘X’ had cuts down both sides through the seating surface/torque ring, still again, the cuts did not extend into the threads, the cuts were nothing like the Model 38.
Then there were the Parker Hail, Midland, Gibbs type receivers, no barrel seating surface/torque ring, the barrel seated on the front of the receiver ring, something like a pipe fitting, like, the 03 and M1917. Even then there were differences, THREADS! the threads were different, I will not live long enough to explain the advantages/disadvantages of difference threads. A friend walked down the rang, picked up his barrel, on the way back he was talking to himself, seems he loved the Mauser brothers, he did not know how much until his barrel decided to leave his new creation.
“Naw, I think I'll keep working on my "off record" Arisaka for a while” BrocLuna, I am surrounded with very talented machinist and smiths and reloaders, we do not always agree, there are times we can not as with “off record”. I have little to no interest in the Japanese rifles, but if I did, with 50+ barrels including 7mm57, 8mm57, 30/06 7.65mm53 BM and 6.5mm55, replacing the barrel (or part of it) would be a lot of work but doable.
Captain Crossman, “Take a light and look in there for yourself”? For most when the bolt closes the light goes out, the chamber gets dark, so, there is a devise that produces the light, then there is the other type of light, I do not need the devise that produces light, again, I check head space three different ways with out a ‘HEAD SPACER” gage, instead I measure the length of the chamber from the bolt face to the shoulder of the chamber.
F. Guffey