Ash
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Ah, but now you're talking about spending more money than previously mentioned. How much do you have in above said rifle? That is not the same rifle you photographed earlier.
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Rebuilding an antique military action to a modern rifle
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rbernie
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Same rifle as shown in the pics, total investment just shy of $300 + optics, as previously advertised. To quote myself:
"This rifle (1895 Chilean Mauser in 7x57) is used regularly to put food on my family's dinner table, and in addition it puts several thousand rounds a year downrange in the pursuit of killing paper and other inanimate objects. It'll put five Barnes 120gr .284 TSXs into a .75" group at an average velocity just shy of 2900fps @ 50F, and it'll use that load to drop any thin-skinned game closer than 300 yards like it was hit with the Hammer of Thor. It's made of nothing but steel and wood, and it displays a build quality that no garden variety Savage or Win or Remington can approach. All told, I have about $300 in the rifle (Timney and scope mounts and all of the machine work included). This rifle is a working tool, and yet (courtesy of its lack of paper and its 'old world' fit and finish) it also is part of a legacy that I intend to leave to my children."
No doubt that Gewehr98's custom Mauser is in a league far separated from my humble '95, but at least my action is paperless.
"This rifle (1895 Chilean Mauser in 7x57) is used regularly to put food on my family's dinner table, and in addition it puts several thousand rounds a year downrange in the pursuit of killing paper and other inanimate objects. It'll put five Barnes 120gr .284 TSXs into a .75" group at an average velocity just shy of 2900fps @ 50F, and it'll use that load to drop any thin-skinned game closer than 300 yards like it was hit with the Hammer of Thor. It's made of nothing but steel and wood, and it displays a build quality that no garden variety Savage or Win or Remington can approach. All told, I have about $300 in the rifle (Timney and scope mounts and all of the machine work included). This rifle is a working tool, and yet (courtesy of its lack of paper and its 'old world' fit and finish) it also is part of a legacy that I intend to leave to my children."
No doubt that Gewehr98's custom Mauser is in a league far separated from my humble '95, but at least my action is paperless.
madmike
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Wow, I guess pics of my current projects are going to require some people to invest in Depends.
I just took $75 worth of parts and built a free-floated Gewehr 88 in about 10 hours of labor. Got to put sights on it yet, but it functions well enough. The stock is monte carlo, because the original was "functional" but also an uncomfortable club. The trigger was "functional" but I prefer not having creep. The barrel was "functional" but 29" is a wee bit long for anything practical.
And please do not even start with the "OMG if you put 'high pressure' ammo in a Gewehr 88 it will explode and rip a hole in the space time continuum!" crap or I will LAUGH at you. I have four. Been shooting surplus 8mm out of them for 20 years. Never had a problem. Neither has the guy with 6. Deal with it.
(Of course, this ludicrous rumor is part of why I can buy parts so cheaply, so, yeah...it'll explode. Got to have a priest exorcise it under the full moon with a goat sacrifice...very hard to do. Better stay away from it )
As to these comments:
Well, the problem is that you CAN'T enter a pre-99 receiver into a bound book. Because it's not a firearm. So says federal law and the ATF.
Wow, right out of Brady's play book. Maybe he wants something he can mail to a friend as a gift in an emergency? Maybe he's afraid of more gun control (I know, it's a stretch and I'm paranoid, but it MIGHT happen someday) and would like something with no sales or transfer record.
Um, no. "Tactical" is a military term meaning "non-strategic." The kind of thing commonly carried in theater without needing higher command to authorize. Alternately, it means easily portable with the unit's organic resources. Rifles. Machine guns. Radios. Some radar.
I missed the part where he suggested that? If I were him, I'd be grossly offended by that comparison. In fact, I do believe you should retract and apologize, this being a PRO-GUN forum.
You seem to have forgotten that it was a specific MILITARY term, not "our" term.
Ash:
Well, no. And in fact, a 36 Chevy works MUCH better with a modern V8. Fact.
Well, that's a fact if it's done by someone who doesn't know what they're doing. And it's a fact if the original HAD some historical value, which parts guns do not. Otherwise, it's just an opinion, and only relevant when true IF I'm buying the weapon as an investment...and few guns from that era will EVER be worth enough to be considered investments. And resale value only matters if I plan to ever sell any of my guns, which I do not. It's also a personal matter.
As to sporterizing old Mausers and such, I suggest leaving them in 8mm...stuff is available by the PALLET and is CHEAP. Cheaper than .308, way cheaper than .30-06, easier AND cheaper than any oddball. It's a perfectly functional round. Consider what you could do with a cranked M1919 belt fed kit gun and ten old Mausers, all in 8mm...pretty danged effective fireteam, yes?
I just took $75 worth of parts and built a free-floated Gewehr 88 in about 10 hours of labor. Got to put sights on it yet, but it functions well enough. The stock is monte carlo, because the original was "functional" but also an uncomfortable club. The trigger was "functional" but I prefer not having creep. The barrel was "functional" but 29" is a wee bit long for anything practical.
And please do not even start with the "OMG if you put 'high pressure' ammo in a Gewehr 88 it will explode and rip a hole in the space time continuum!" crap or I will LAUGH at you. I have four. Been shooting surplus 8mm out of them for 20 years. Never had a problem. Neither has the guy with 6. Deal with it.
(Of course, this ludicrous rumor is part of why I can buy parts so cheaply, so, yeah...it'll explode. Got to have a priest exorcise it under the full moon with a goat sacrifice...very hard to do. Better stay away from it
)As to these comments:
Well, the problem is that you CAN'T enter a pre-99 receiver into a bound book. Because it's not a firearm. So says federal law and the ATF.
Wow, right out of Brady's play book. Maybe he wants something he can mail to a friend as a gift in an emergency? Maybe he's afraid of more gun control (I know, it's a stretch and I'm paranoid, but it MIGHT happen someday) and would like something with no sales or transfer record.
Um, no. "Tactical" is a military term meaning "non-strategic." The kind of thing commonly carried in theater without needing higher command to authorize. Alternately, it means easily portable with the unit's organic resources. Rifles. Machine guns. Radios. Some radar.
I missed the part where he suggested that?
If I were him, I'd be grossly offended by that comparison. In fact, I do believe you should retract and apologize, this being a PRO-GUN forum.You seem to have forgotten that it was a specific MILITARY term, not "our" term.
Ash:
Well, no. And in fact, a 36 Chevy works MUCH better with a modern V8. Fact.
Well, that's a fact if it's done by someone who doesn't know what they're doing. And it's a fact if the original HAD some historical value, which parts guns do not. Otherwise, it's just an opinion, and only relevant when true IF I'm buying the weapon as an investment...and few guns from that era will EVER be worth enough to be considered investments. And resale value only matters if I plan to ever sell any of my guns, which I do not. It's also a personal matter.
As to sporterizing old Mausers and such, I suggest leaving them in 8mm...stuff is available by the PALLET and is CHEAP. Cheaper than .308, way cheaper than .30-06, easier AND cheaper than any oddball. It's a perfectly functional round. Consider what you could do with a cranked M1919 belt fed kit gun and ten old Mausers, all in 8mm...pretty danged effective fireteam, yes?
Cosmoline
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Did you notice you're responding to the arguments of a TWO YEAR OLD THREAD?
madmike
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And?
Cosmoline
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Nothing, I just admire your tenacity. If I did that I'd get caught in long running arguments with myself.
madmike
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Well, sometimes that's the only way to get an intelligent debate online...
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