I am not big into modern scoped bolt actions but I do have older mil-surplus bolt actions and some modern and older semi-automatics. I always feel kind of sheepish when people talk about MOA and sub-MOA groups they get with their modern bolt actions.
What is considered good for a stock semi-auto or mil-surplus rifle? I have or had: Ruger Mini-14, AR-15s, Cetmes, AKs, SKSs, Mausers, Enfields, Mosins, ect. but I have never seen MOA from any of them. I get good accuracy but not tack driving stuuf. I can hit a pie plate with any of them and pop cans with most of them at 100 yards but NOT quarters or nickels.
What are people getting out of there stock SKSs, AKs, Mausers, Mosins, ect.?
Out of the above, the AR is in a different class. I got the best groups with my AR-15s. My scoped AR would do close to 1 1/2" edge to edge if I was shooting well. I measure from the outside of the holes and not center to center.
What is considered good for a stock semi-auto or mil-surplus rifle? I have or had: Ruger Mini-14, AR-15s, Cetmes, AKs, SKSs, Mausers, Enfields, Mosins, ect. but I have never seen MOA from any of them. I get good accuracy but not tack driving stuuf. I can hit a pie plate with any of them and pop cans with most of them at 100 yards but NOT quarters or nickels.
What are people getting out of there stock SKSs, AKs, Mausers, Mosins, ect.?
Out of the above, the AR is in a different class. I got the best groups with my AR-15s. My scoped AR would do close to 1 1/2" edge to edge if I was shooting well. I measure from the outside of the holes and not center to center.