Recalled vs Reclassified

[BevrFevr]

I've be reading alot about 124gr. Speer gold dot 9mm That has been "recalled".

I bought some that says reclassified. They guy who sells em to me I trust. He told me that they were not recalled at all. He says they were made for a police contract. He says the ammo is as perfect as it could be. He says it was Reclassified because LE Ammo does not pay the wildlife tax that is on all civilian ammo sales.

Now has there really been some RECALLED Speer or are people just misunderstanding what RECLASSIFIED means?

Any legitimate information is welcome. Thanks

-bevr

 

[Mike Irwin]

What does the Speer website say?

I'm a little confused. This is the first I've heard of this.

If the ammo was supposedly made for a police contract, why didn't Speer simply make more rather than go through the hassle and expense of a recall?

How did this supposed police contract ammo get out in the first place?

 

[BevrFevr]

I'll check the site, I don't know why I didn't think of it.

The ammo didn't just "get out" as I understand it. It went back to speer and they had to pay the taxes and put a sticker on it that says Reclassified.

Thanks -bevr

 

[BevrFevr]

Not A Word

The web site has no info on the reclassified ammo.

I like it cause I get it for $9 a box of 50. Sweeeeeet! I was just wanting to get the staight scoop on it.

-bevr

 

[Mike Irwin]

Is it by chance +P or +P+?


Wait, there's one other possibility...

It could have been done for a police contract job, and could have been overage.

Since it was excess, it wouldn't have been delivered, but since it was still made under the terms of the police contract, it might not have been "standard" ammo -- the kind that Speer normally brings off the line. In other words, customized to some degree, different powder, different case, different primer, etc.

Since it's not standard stock ammo, it might well have been tagged this way so that it could be tracked through Speer's inventory system.

Just a guess...

 

[9mmepiphany]

when it first came out, ammoman, sent out a short explaination about it being part of a police contract that wasn't filled...??? who knows if they canceled or it didn't meet specs. i thought i heard there was a problem with ignition and that is way it is marked "for practice only"

so the ammo could be both recall (didn't meet specs) and reclassified (no long LE only)

i've heard of good experiences from folks who've picked up some. if you have any reservations, use it for practice and somthing else for carry.

 

[GunNut]

I'm pretty sure that this stuff didn't meet quality, because of hard primers.

So therefore, it is not reliable, and SHOULD NOT be used for self defense.

I bought some thinking it would be a great defense round that I could afford to shoot. Then I came to my senses and decided my life was worth more than that.

Steve

 

[Jo Mama]

I believe the spec on LE ammo calls for cci primers. Someone thought they could save some dough by going to something else cheaper, without checking the spec. anyway they had a bunch they had to dump. Oh well i bought 500rnds!

 

[mini14jac]

I got a bunch of the 124gr. +P, Gold Dots, from S.G. for around $14 for a box of 50.
When the recall came out, I called and talked to a nice lady, and gave her my lot numbers.

She said my ammo was good for defense or whatever.
There was some recalled ammo that had hard primers.

 

[Brian Maffei]

ammoman.com has it for $89 per 500. Not bad if you want to practice at the range with your carry load, then just get some store bought stuff when reliability is demanded.

 

[blades67]

I bought two boxes of the Speer reclassified 9mm ammo, 250 rounds of the 124 grain and 250 rounds of the 147 grain, for $33.99 each. Not one single problem.

 

[George Hill]

Recalled: Ammo sold before the factory realized a mistake.
Reclassified: Ammo that hadn't been sold yet, and the factory found an error of some sort, but it's still viable ammo... just not at the same specs listed on the boxes.

I've purchased a lot of reclassified ammo in the past. It's fine for range use, and probably fine for duty use - but I personally wouldn't use it for duty.

 

[cratz2]

I've shot about 400 rounds of the reclassified stuff bought from ammoman... 124 Gr +P Gold Dots. Not a single light strike or failure of any kind in my P9 Covert. And the few that I've put through my Taurus PT99AF and my buddies Browning BDM have been 100% as well.

I would buy it, practice with it and enjoy it. Since you're getting such a good deal on the practice ammo, pop for the $15 for a box of 20 no-reclassified stuff for serious use.

 

[ChristopherG]

I've shot around 1500 rds of this reclassified gold dot ammo from ammoman without any failures, in both 124 and 147 grs. It's very accurate. I've got no problem carrying it (or wouldn't, if I carried a 9).
cg

 

[BevrFevr]

The stuff I have is standard pressure.

Never had a failure.

I was hoping someone had direct knowledge.

Thanks anyways.

-bevr

 

[BevrFevr]

Definitely not from Ammoman

Just went to the Ammoman site. The stuff I have is definitely not from there.

It is in factory original 50 rnd boxes. It also looks prettier than the stuff in the image on ammoman.

I guess I will never know. Such is life.

-bevr