Recent find: Smith & Wesson 5 Screw K38

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Every once in a while you just get lucky. Model 14s and K38s in decent shape are going for $900 to $1000+ on GB these days. Followed this one for ten days and no one was bidding on it. My guess for the lack of interest was the grips that are not correct for the gun and, appear mismatched, along with a somewhat incomplete description on the part of the seller…no mention of timing and lockup. Starting bid was $600…waited until the last few minutes and won the item for $600 + tax and shipping.

The finish is in about 98% condition. The seller forgot to mention that the gun was out of time and that someone had really done the gunsmith trigger special on the springs. In all fairness to the seller, I didn’t ask about the lock work either…show a little interest on things like this and some of these guys will get someone to run the bid up on you. Someone had clipped about 1/3 of the rebound slide spring off. Of course that caused the trigger not to return…no problem for whoever did this. They reshaped the hammer spring by putting two permanent bends in it to reduce the spring tension. Hammer spring looked like a piece of abstract art. I doubt the gun would have ever fired Winchester primers reliably.

Not to worry. I keep a fair number of spare hands in my shop as well as a wide range of hammer and rebound slide springs. Replaced the hand, hammer spring and rebound slide spring (#12 Wolff spring). 20 minutes of cleaning the crud out of the lock work, replacing the hand and springs and she’s back in time. 2 pound trigger pull that breaks like glass. The serial number shows the date of manufacture to be 1946…the first run of the K prefix guns according to the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson. The action feels like she’s operating on ball bearings. I love the old 5 screw guns!
 

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whatnickname

Very nicely done!

You found a veritable diamond in the rough, cagily played the Gun Broker game, and restored a vintage K frame to it's rightful glory!
 
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I bought a used 15-3 a few years ago. It shot great and had a pretty decent trigger pull. Eventually I opened it up and found the rebound spring had been clipped , but only a coil or 2. I installed a 15# rebound spring and it feels about the same
 
Wow! That would have fixed my no S&W .22 LR revolver problem. You did very well on a great gun.
 
I bought a used 15-3 a few years ago. It shot great and had a pretty decent trigger pull. Eventually I opened it up and found the rebound spring had been clipped , but only a coil or 2. I installed a 15# rebound spring and it feels about the same

a coil or two usually doesn’t cause any problems. 1/3 of the spring getting clipped is another matter. Makes you wonder what they were thinking.
 
whatnickname

Very nicely done!

You found a veritable diamond in the rough, cagily played the Gun Broker game, and restored a vintage K frame to its hank rightful glory!

Thank you. I’ve always had a soft spot for vintage 5 screw guns. Cock one of these and you really appreciate the handwork that went into fitting and finishing these guns. These are true American icons.
 
Thank you. Still can’t understand why someone would attempt a trigger job that way.
being a 77 yo gun and in that great of a finish. Someone probably bubba’ed it in the 50’s and never got to getting it fixed. Fast forward 73 years later, you finished the job! very cool story!
 
I found a 5 screw K38 a few weeks ago. It was in excellent condition and came home with me for $700 OTD. I just couldn't say no.
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I would have jumped on that in a quick minute! Good find. They just aren’t making any more of these. People can say all they want about the stuff Smith & Wesson is calling a revolver today. When you pick up an old five screw and cock it you’ll see what makes these guns so special.
 
I would have jumped on that in a quick minute! Good find. They just aren’t making any more of these. People can say all they want about the stuff Smith & Wesson is calling a revolver today. When you pick up an old five screw and cock it you’ll see what makes these guns so special.
Exposed Hammer and no Lawyer Lock!!!
 
I call it the Hillary Hole!
never understood the term? Those types of thing usually comes from being sued and as a settlement, the company had to design revolver with a lock nobody asked for.

kidda like a “your finger getting chopped off” lawn mower warning.
 
never understood the term? Those types of thing usually comes from being sued and as a settlement, the company had to design revolver with a lock nobody asked for.

kidda like a “your finger getting chopped off” lawn mower warning.

The lock came about as a result of a suit brought against Smith & Wesson by the Clinton Administration for manufacturing inherently dangerous products. Smith & Wesson capitulated. Part of the settlement was that Smith & Wesson would not permit their handguns to be sold by any dealers that also sold “assault” rifles. Another part of the settlement required Smith & Wesson to redesign their handguns to include an internal lock…Clinton Administration - Internal lock many of us started referring to it as the Hillary Hole.
 
The lock came about as a result of a suit brought against Smith & Wesson by the Clinton Administration for manufacturing inherently dangerous products. Smith & Wesson capitulated. Part of the settlement was that Smith & Wesson would not permit their handguns to be sold by any dealers that also sold “assault” rifles. Another part of the settlement required Smith & Wesson to redesign their handguns to include an internal lock…Clinton Administration - Internal lock many of us started referring to it as the Hillary Hole.
Learn something New! Hillary Hole it is!
 
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