Recoil on 7.62x54 Mosin?

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What type of rifle makes a differance. A 1891 long rifle has milder felt recoil than a 1938 carbine. A Tokarev semi-auto kicks like a kitten compared to the M38.

I would say the recoil is about the same a 12ga with 2 3/4" a game load.
 
I have an M38, and my friend has a Semi-Auto Toke. Personally, the Toke recoil feels a lot sharper and jars me more. All WWII full rifle should kick about the same, with the largest differences being weight and personal ergonomics.
 
Had a M-44

and that, being alot lighter, seemed to kick alot more than my Mausers, although, as mentioned most bolt action battle rifles will give you a pratty good thump. My buddies Garand, on the other hand, is a pussycat, compared to a Mauser or Mosin.
 
The 91/30 probably kicks about the same as a Mauser. Nothing like a shotgun, IMO. An M38 or M44 will kick pretty hard, though not as bad as, say, a six pound 20 gauge. LOTS of flash. I enjoy it myself. :D

Dfaugh: the M44 Mosin weighs MORE than your average Mauser. An M44 weighs 8.9 pounds and a German Kar98K weighs 8.6 pounds. The recoil is nasty because of the barrel and the buttplate.
 
Is this worse than that of an 8mm Mauser?
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Its not even close. A 91/30 is a real joy to shoot. The carbines are short but heavy, they have more recoil than the longer rifles, but most of that perceived recoil is muzzle blast. It has more to do with stock fit than anything else, mauser carbines are too short for me and rattle my teeth, while Mosin fit me really nice. Another bad one if the '03 springfield, I've never thought of the 30-06 as hard kicking until I starteed shooting one of these. I've shot plenty of remington and winchester 30-06 hunting rifles which fit me better, and the recoil has never even bothered me on any of these.
 
The M1891 is a thump.

The 91/30 is like a Mauser or Lee-Enfield.

The M38 is a slam.

The M44 is worse.

My last range trip with my AK I met a father-and-son team who had all of the above and a Yugo SKS side by side, and I showed up unknowingly with an AK, so we had all of Russia's weapons between 1891 and 1974 in one place. Kind of cool since it was unplanned.

They hadn't shot an AK and I got to field test all the Mosin-Nagant models side by side. The M1891 they had was Pre-Revolution and a sweeeeeet shooter (offhand, palm sized groups at 100 yards with irons).
 
How strange, I thought my 91/30 had less felt recoil than my Turk 8mm Mauser? Must fit me that much differently. Though the M44 did punch even more strongly into the shoulder.
 
How can a 44 be worse than a 38? Aren't they the same gun, but with a bayonet?

My 91/30 is pleasant to shoot. My friends 38 isn't bad. Much less recoil than a Yugo Mauser with Turk ammo.
 
I was thinking the same, Jef. Though for different reasons. The 38 is lighter than the M44, by a pound or so. It should kick HARDER.
 
My M-44 is a pretty decent 'thumper' on both ends...although the <$10 Butler Creek slip-on recoil pad over that steel butt plate helps A LOT.
 
My 91/30 isn't that bad when it comes to recoil. I've fired an 8mm Yugo Mauser and I thought the recoil on that was a lot sharper. I still want to get a carbine Mosin though.
 
The recoil is quite mild IF you are holding the rifle properly. The Mosins, like the Mausers, SMLE's and other war rifles, were designed to be fired with iron sights with the rifle's buttplate firmly against the upper chest muscle rather than pushing into the shoulder joint. The rifle should be held at close to a ninety-degree angle when shooting off hand. These rifles, unless modified with new stocks, were NOT designed to be shot with a scope mounted, as many modern rifles are. So it's not a good idea to seat them back in your shoulder, against the bone, holding the rifle at an accute angle and putting your head right behind the bolt. Yet I see people doing this all the time. There's no scope there, hence no reason to stick your face that close. Get your face well back from the bolt, so you have enough room to cycle without breaking the stance. You will find felt recoil substantially reduced, as it hits into your chest not your shoulder.
 
Love my thunderboomers! My wife will not touch a Mosin after watching me shoot my M38....with a slip on Wally World special recoil pad, they're easy to shoot!
 
Thanks guys...thanks cosmoline..that makes sense. Like a tactical shottie, which should be shot from the pectoral not the shoulder joint.
 
I was surprised to read that high brass 12 gauge 3 inch magnums have more recoil than 30-06. Every time I have fired mine, I barely felt the recoil. But then, I'm generally rising out of a duck blind at 5 or 6 mallards coming in. Bam, Bam, Bam and the dog goes a splashin'. I imagine that in combat, the same is true. At the bench, however, is another matter. I've shot a 91/59 plenty of times, though on the bench it can be tough to get all the way through a single magazine without a recoil pad.

Ash
 
Mine aren't so bad; good form, like cosmoline relates, is a key factor. Curl up into it like the blowing snow is all over you and it'll do you right. You have to put things 'into perspective', comrade.

You're welcome to try my M44.

The 198 grain rounds are noticibly more robust than the 144 grain pills. Yes, the muzzle blast is exactly what has been reported. The kids love it and they're not recoil sensitive.

Regards,
Rabbit.
 
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