Recommend a good flip-up rear AR sight
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Gary G23
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Three of my rifles have Troy.
Armueller2001
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Troy is bad ass.. no elevation adjustment however. The only one I've seen that does is the Wilson Combat one.
Bartholomew Roberts
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There are a couple of elevation adjustable rear sights out there - Knights makes one and there is another company that makes one issued by the military (looks similar to the Mangonel sight; but I forgot the name).
However, I don't find the elevation adjustable sights to be that useful from a practical-use standpoint. A same-plane aperture no elevation sight like the Troy (which I am also using) can be sighted in at 50yds and you will be within 2.6" out to 225yds and within an 8" plate at 300yds.
Beyond that distance, I have a real difficult time even acquiring and identifying targets with my naked eyes, so I haven't had much need for a backup sight that is elevation adjustable.
However, I don't find the elevation adjustable sights to be that useful from a practical-use standpoint. A same-plane aperture no elevation sight like the Troy (which I am also using) can be sighted in at 50yds and you will be within 2.6" out to 225yds and within an 8" plate at 300yds.
Beyond that distance, I have a real difficult time even acquiring and identifying targets with my naked eyes, so I haven't had much need for a backup sight that is elevation adjustable.
joe4702
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I've got the Midwest Industries ERS on my M4gery. Not as nice as the Troy, but substantially less expensive - $80 from Brownells with C&R FFL discount.
Creature
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...did you even think to ask those fellas exactly WHY they prefer the Troy sights before you jumped on that bandwagon?
Bartholomew Roberts
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Well having owned both the ARMS #40 and the Troy, what I liked about the Troy was:
Stronger, better built sight that came with a same plane aperture.
Better locknut design and came with a tube of blue loctite to make sure it didn't get lost.
Lower profile but still fully functional same plane aperture.
A1 style windage knob to prevent inadvertent adjustment of the sight
What I didn't like about the Troy: incredibly slight tilt on mounting. Only perceptible when it became apparent that a change in windage also meant a change in elevation. Troy corrected this manufacturing defect several years ago though.
The only thing the ARMS #40 had going for it was the spring-loaded deployment. The new ARMS #40L does resolve a few of those issues though (lower profile, fully functional aperture) and runs about $85 - making it a good bargain.
Stronger, better built sight that came with a same plane aperture.
Better locknut design and came with a tube of blue loctite to make sure it didn't get lost.
Lower profile but still fully functional same plane aperture.
A1 style windage knob to prevent inadvertent adjustment of the sight
What I didn't like about the Troy: incredibly slight tilt on mounting. Only perceptible when it became apparent that a change in windage also meant a change in elevation. Troy corrected this manufacturing defect several years ago though.
The only thing the ARMS #40 had going for it was the spring-loaded deployment. The new ARMS #40L does resolve a few of those issues though (lower profile, fully functional aperture) and runs about $85 - making it a good bargain.
ftierson
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Get a Matech PADS...
Simply the best...
Forrest
Simply the best...
Forrest
Thanks for all the input so far. Actually, I currently have the YHM ceetee pictured. It's a fine sight, I was just wondering about the availability of a flip-up sight with elevation. The rear sights I've seen with elevation aren't flip-up, and they would prohibit use of a telescopic tube with standard eye relief.
The height of the aperture on the YHM must be a little different than that on the carrying handle sights. I have to crank the front sight up a bit to achieve the same point of impact when using the YHM.
K
The height of the aperture on the YHM must be a little different than that on the carrying handle sights. I have to crank the front sight up a bit to achieve the same point of impact when using the YHM.
K
Also consider the heights on them when they aren't deployed. If you're thinking about adding an optic in the future, some might fit under it and others might not. You should be good with almost all the low profile ones and the Troy though. On Templar's setup he showed, the YHM flip up most likely wouldn't fit under like the Troy does.
Deer Hunter
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I bought a Promag rear sight. Works for me!
ftierson
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Not to hijack the thread for too long but, Templar, have you been pretty happy with the Kahles shown in your photos...?
Forrest
mauiglide
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Midwest Industries SPLP rear BUIS is what I have on my Bushmaster because it is one of the lowest profile BUIS I could find that would clear my mounted Leupold Mark 4 scope.
Bartholomew Roberts
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This sight is the Matech PADS that Forrest mentioned. It is elevation adjustable but takes up some real estate on the rail.
MaterDei
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MI, Larue, Troy, ARMS, YHM.
They are all good.
They are all good.
Bartholomew Roberts
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On the A2 aperture the large aperture and the small aperture are on different planes (different heights) in order to shift the zero for longer range shooting.
This means that if you are zeroed at 50yds and flip to the small aperture, your point of impact will shift.
A same plane aperture has both small and large apertures on the same plane. So you don't have the shift in point of impact when flipping between apertures (but you also don't have the option of a more arcing trajectory for longer range).
Merledog
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I'm fond of my GG&G MAD sight. Has worked well for me so far.
Mike Wazowski
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Wilson Combat makes an quality flip up rear sight that is windage and elevation adjustable.
Mike
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