Red Alert Last Night

[Shorts]

The coyotes we pinged with .22s still run off. Hopefully the injury overcame them. They do come in and attack. I've caught several tearing up the carcass of one of our cats they had just caught Talk about rapid fire, seeing that I wanted to club them to death. We also had a infestation problem after some acreage was cleared out across the field. I killed coyotes and bobcats in our front yards. Even had the neighbors out in their shorts and flip flops holding flashlights so I could shoot em straight in their bushes

Kill them when you see them, no matter when it is. If they are close enough to be comin and in stalking domestic, they're due to be dead.

 

[Mike Hull]

Iamhistory!
They kill peoples dogs like that all the time in this area. They bait the dog with the lame act, or just tease it in general till the dog leaves the yard, or jumps the fence after them, and then they ambush. Feast time then.

Several winters ago, over the hill to the west, near Prescott, coyotes attacked a 12-13 Y/O girl coming home from school, and tried to drag her away for dinner. She managed to fight them off, but her clother were the worse for wear, and her arm/legs were pretty chewed.

I don't imagine the rabies shots after, were fun either.

Put a red filter, or even red plastic wrap on your flash/spot light. That way the light doesn't alarm them, and you can get closer. You will see the reflections of their eyes easily. Just shoot between the lights.

Good luck to you!

 

[iamhistory]

"Iamhistory what part of the US do you live in??"

I am in central Pennsylvania......a little on the northern side.
Coyotes have gotten bad around our area. I regularly find turkey and deer parts on my property. I've shot at a few and hear them all the time. They've even been about 60 yards out from the house howling at zero dark thirty and I can easily see thier outline from my windows. But this incident has taken the urgency up a notch.

Coincidentally, my brother has an acquaintance who is a "professional" coyote hunter who has scheduled some time to hunt on our property and show us some new techniques. I'm looking forward to it. It'll be fun to finally bag a few and we'll all feel more comfortable when the population is thinned out.

I have nearly emptied a 30 round mag from my AR and another time from my AK on running yotes through my field. They were about 300 yards and nearly full speed, but it was fun. The day I shot at the one with my AK was also a winter day and I could see the snow flying all around him and under him. I went out to check for blood and all I saw was a long stream of urine about 75 yards long!! I must have literally scared the piss out of him!

Just a matter of time til we start knocking some off.

 

[Dave R]

you can see an obvious pattern of tracks where they approached and started to circle my dog and she was trying to face both directions to protect herself.

You realize they were using pack tactics to try to kill your dog, right? That's why they come from opposite sides. She can't face both sides at once. So whoever's got the rear takes a nip, until they successfully injure a leg. Then they can take her.

They kill peoples dogs like that all the time in this area. They bait the dog with the lame act, or just tease it in general till the dog leaves the yard, or jumps the fence after them, and then they ambush. Feast time then.

Pack tactics again.

They may come back for another try. If they do, they'll probably keep coming. It you(r dog) or them!

 

[firesafety3]

Some of you may be familiar with the damage a pack can do on cattle.

Not unusual to find a calf carcass or a 200 lb steer with its tail missing or severely damaged.

Coyotes are predators and built very well for the job. What they lack in size, they make up for in tactics.

Down here in Louisiana, when we kill one we hang it on the fence post of the property line. Old wives tale says it's suppose to ward off other yotes.
Not unusual to drive by hunting property and see 7 or 8 hanging down a fence line.

 

[DarkKnight01]

Iamhistory, Get yourself a good rifle.. a good ole bolt action 30-06 or a .308 and mount a good high power scope on it, 300 yards will seem like 20 yards with open sights, reach out and touch them =) keep em off your property theyll only become a bigger and bigger problem the longer it goes on. Accompany your dog when you let her out, and have your rifle near by, and take them out as you see them, the AR and the AK are great fun and effective close range, but once you get over 100 yards or so with open sights hitting something as small as a coyote in motion is near impossible, go with a good rifle and save some $ on ammo =)

 

[Mr. Mysterious]

Good thread...I'm glad that you dog was ok! I don't have much experience with coyotes...but have heard and seen them run away on ocassions.

My gf's mom has problem with them killing their cats...I have thought about stalking some night at their place...if I get my M4 I might do that now

 

[iamhistory]

Darkknight..................I'm way ahead of you. I have several rifles that could do the job. Winchester Model 70 30.06, a few .222's, a pre-64 Winchester .270 w/ Mauser action (sweet rifle) and my favorite long range baby is a very nice Remington 700 VSLH .308 heavy barrel, kevlar stock, harris bipod, 4-16 power glass w/ range finder.........I can pretty much touch rounds out past 300 yards with it just messing around. I'll be getting that out tomorrow night with the caller and setup to see what I can see. It's time to get down to business.

You are right.........the AR and AK are grabbed for fun to pop off a few rounds at them as they run through the field, but I need to get a bit more serious now.

Don't worry, I won't miss. I was an expert multiple times in the Marine Corps and I shoot competition now.

I'll let you guys know how I make out. I typically don't have much luck getting these buggers to come to my calls. If I can get a shot at one that would be great. I just may have to put out some bait and get down and dirty.

oh, I think I'm going to have some fun this weekend.

 

[Bob F.]

Got a couple chickens? One live one staked out, one recently killed and bloody........

 

[Tinker]

That .222 sounds like the right medicine for the coyotes. Awesome little rifle.

 

[moa]

Azrael256, you used Great Pyrenees for guarding goats? Everyone of those I have seen,that was full grown, was a huge dog. I think one weighed 200 lbs. I cannot imagine how they could close with a 25-50 lb. coyote.

 

[DarkKnight01]

Darkknight..................I'm way ahead of you.

Good Good =) I hear their furs can be worth a lil cash hehe

 

[R.H. Lee]

Had a strange event last summer. We live on a hilltop on 6 acres, surrounded by another 100 or so acres of oak, pines and sagebrush. Lots of wild animals-mostly small-fox, bobcat, etc. Our dog, a 100+ Labrador saw something outside and silently charged out after it (as is his habit). We heard a bark, then several yelps and cries. The dog had a slice near his eye and through his eyelid. Took the dog to the vet for some stitches. The vet said whatever did it was bigger than the dog! It was a horizontal slice, so I don't think it was a deer hoof. Could have been a bobcat (although I never saw a 100+ lb bobcat). We do have cougars in the area http://www.ksby.com/home/headlines/1195407.html but I would think a mountain lion would/could have easily killed the dog.

It's still a mystery.

 

[buzz_knox]

The resurgence in coyotes is a consequence of the massive rise in prey animals (including pets) combined with the lack of effective varmint control.

The close proximity of coyotes to man is because they aren't really afraid of us anymore. So, our territory is now their hunting ground.

 

[reagansquad]

My cousin lives out on a farm right next to the Indian rez. a huge pack of them comes down off of there and raids the place, but his 3 dogs handle them with ease... So I guess border collie mixes are good coyote fighters...

 

[TallPine]

Just to show you what works and what doesn't, up here in "wild Montana" we personally don't have that much trouble with coyotes. Oh sure, they kill sheep and calves, but they pretty much leave people and houses alone because the general rule is to shoot coyotes on sight

We live on a hilltop on 6 acres, surrounded by another 100 or so acres of oak, pines and sagebrush.

Riley, I hope you have a large defensive area cleared around your house, because you are in a classic wildfire death zone. And if your driveway is narrow with trees and brush right next to it, you have no escape route and fire crews could not get in (and out!) safely. (as a wildfire volunteer, we don't go IN anyplace that we can't get out of if the fire catches us there)

Fire is a much greater threat than coyotes, cougars, and even man

 

[Lonestar.45]

My inlaws live at the end of a long street in a big new neighborhood in the sububurbs. There's a huge field and a creekbed about 2 blocks from their house. They moved in about 3 months ago, and promptly lost their outdoor cat. Then their neighbors cat turns up missing. I had a feeling I knew what it was, but didn't tell them (they'd freak at the thought of their kitty being eaten by a 'yote). Christmas Eve, I was leaving their house and driving home, and a HUGE coyote ran across the street in front of me, just a few blocks from their house, in the middle of the neighborhood, where you wouldn't think one would be. There's no mistaking it, it was a coyote.

I wish I could hunt or shoot them, but that area is all houses and city, so no way. The sad part is, at the end of the street, right next to the field and creekbed, is a nice playground where there are always kids playing. :banghead: I'm pretty sure that park is their pathway into the neighborhood. Folks in this neighborhood are feeding the coyotes their cats, and don't even know it, I see signs up all the time about missing animals.

 

[R.H. Lee]

Riley, I hope you have a large defensive area cleared around your house, because you are in a classic wildfire death zone

Oh, yeah. SWMBO is paranoid about fire. Every spring we spend at least three weeks weedwacking (on steep hills-whew!), brush clearing, removing 'fire ladders' from trees, etc. We maintain something like 100 yd defensible area from the house, which is stucco with a mission tile roof. The 1/4 mile driveway is wide enough for any firetruck, plus I've cut overhanging branches up to about 14'.

 

[TallPine]

Okay, Riley - sounds like you are thinking about it and doing all the right things. We had a fire in 03 in an urban interface (my first real call ): when the old tender I was on got there, a deputy tried to get us to go up to a certain residence where there were supposed to be two older folks. We hesitated a few seconds at the bottom of the hill when we saw the narrow lane between the pines and junipers, and a moment later a flame front boiled across the driveway right in front of us. We got that old heavy truck turned around and out of there as fast as possible. Fortunately, the folks weren't at home. Another engine was able to come in the back way (behind the fire) cross-country from another road. They saved the mobile home, but the barn, corral, and several vehicles were lost at that residence.

Oh, and back to coyotes - we have a number of cats that roam outside and have not lost one to coyotes yet (but the neighbor's dog killed a kitten ). Again, it has to do with keeping the coyotes scared of man, plus the fact that our cats are raised here and know how to look out for themselves (there are also foxes, owls, hawks, etc). Take a city cat to the hills and they walk right into the coyotes mouth.

 

[Bob F.]

Saw a 30# (estimate, of course) coyote hunting along abusy interstate right at the edge of a good sized town a few weeks back, at noon-brazen.

 

[JohnKSa]

You don't have to be in a rural area to have trouble with coyotes.

An acquaintance of mine who lives in a suburban area heard a ruckus in the backyard one evening and looked out to see a coyote trying to jump back over the 4 foot chainlink fence that encloses his back yard. It was having difficulty because the weenie dog it was trying to run off with was a bit heavier that the coyote thought it would be.

He managed to save his dog but the coyote got away.

 

[campbellcj]

We're in suburban SoCal and although we don't have much property here, we're surrounded by miles of open space (state parks etc.) and coyotes are rampant. We of course also have deer, possums, coons, rattlesnakes and so forth.

Fortunately our property is fenced in 5-6' wrought iron and the largest animals thus far have not been able to get in; however, we've had a rather large racoon (lost an argument w/ our dog over his dinner, apparently ) as well as snakes inside the perimeter and the coyotes are literally right outside the fence many nights. They are sometimes spotted right in the public streets/sidewalks.

The problem is -- we have nearby neighbors and there are kids in every household. So, I would likely be severely grilled if not arrested if I put down a wild animal or loose/feral dog here. Any outdoors firearm discharge here would become a Bad Scene. Our large male Akita sleeps out back (also covering 2 potential entry points) and thus far nothing has successfully messed with him. The Corgi / Aus Shephard mix sleeps in the garage as she is old and can't take on the colder nights, and a large coyote or raccoon would be tough for her to deal with.